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To: zazas-l@hollyfeld.org (ZAZAS-L Satanist Elist)
From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nocTifer)
Subject: (Z) History of Satanism (2, Literary; LONG)
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 19:39:27 -0700 (PDT)
49980502 aa2 Hail Satan!
History of Satanism
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Part Two: Literary Satanism
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comments/review welcome.
beginning with the balance of citations from Baskin on Lit and Arts:
$ LITERATURE AND SATAN -- The literature of the Middle
$ Ages teems with demons. In modern times, poets and
$ dramatists have kept alive the personality of the Devil.
$ The Don Juan legend has been explored by many writers
$ since its introduction by Tirso de Molina in the seventeenth
$ century. Vondel, Holland's greatest poet, devoted his
$ masterpiece to Lucifer; Milton assigned him the main role
$ in _Paradise Lost_ (1667); Goethe made Mephistopheles one
$ of the major figures in his _Faust_; de Vigny (1824) and
$ Lermontov (1840) wrote poems about Lucifer; Leopardi
$ sketched out a hymn to Ahriman (1835); Ibsen called Satan
$ 'the 'Great Curve' in _peer Gynt_ (1867); one of the
$ manifestoes of German Romanticism, _Die Rauber (1781)
$ is an apology for Lucifer; Carducci made Satan the symbol
$ of liberty and progress; and Ferdinando Trinnanzi (1879-
$ 1940) revived the great vision of Origen and expressed
$ the hope that Satan would find redemption. Among many
$ other writers who have produced significant works related
$ to Satan or Satanism are Huysmans, Baudelaire, the Marquis
$ de Sade, Laclos, Balzac, Hugo, Byron, Isadore Ducasse, Yeats,
$ Villiers de l'Isle-Adam, Jarry Rimbaud, Bernanos, Montherlant,
$ Camus, and Gide.
alot to work with here, though certainly some of these authors
were merely portraying Satan in an uncomplementary fashion.
$ SATAN IN ART -- Artists have treated the theme of the Devil
$ variously, Hieronymus Bosch portrays him as the ape of God,
$ supreme master of disorder. Albrecht Durer depicts him as
$ a pig waiting to snatch a human soul. Goya shows him as a
$ goat. He often appears in medieval art and sculpture as a
$ grotesque figure with horns and tail.
it was the graphic arts of Satan and demons which convinced me
of the identity between Satan and wild nature. I've not seen
Durer, but Bosch and Goya are very lovely.
from:
$ -----------------------------------------------------------
$ _Dictionary of Satanism_, by Wade Baskin,
$ Philosophical Library, 1972; various pp.
$ __________________________________________
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lastly I append for your review text posted by Kyr and
myself to Usenet. the text to which I was referring was,
as I recall, the espousal of an orgSatanist who was to
be writing an article on Literary Satanism. I critiqued
his text and never heard back from him. comments welcome.
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To: alt.religion.wicca,alt.pagan,alt.satanism
From: Kyr@nemoria.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: Literary Satanism
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 20:01:18 -0600
cheshire.hawk@ican.net (CheshireHawk):
# Also.. I've heard the term "literary Satanism".. where would that fit?
Literary Satanism (in western literature, anyway) probably begins with
Milton's "Paradise Lost". Milton's Satan is a magnificent, courageous,
tragic character, rather in the mold of Homer's Achilles. He gets all the
best lines and the best decriptions - at the poem's start, anyhow. As the
story progresses his character becomes much pettier. Milton's God, by
contrast, is a vindictive bore all the way through. Blake thought that
Milton was unconsciously "of the devil's party" because he wrote so well
about Satan and so badly about God. Satan's character was an inspiration
to the Romantics, people like Byron, Shelley, Blake and Baudelaire. They
saw him as the archetype of the individualist who rebels against tyranny
and conformity, and also as Lucifer/Prometheus, the spirit which
liberates humans from ignorance. Satan stood for liberality. Baudelaire
wrote about him as a kind of champion of the underdog and the oppressed,
effectively a substitute Christ. The Romantics saw in Milton's Satan the
spirit of their own imagination, that which dares to "dream the
impossible dream". If you extend the term "Literary Satanism" to cover
works which don't actually mention Satan, the list would be very long
indeed. As an example, I would call Shakespeare's Cleopatra a Satanic
character - proud, sensual, individualist, looks out for number one,
refuses to submit to Caesar's authority. The play could be called Satanic
in that (IMO) it portrays her in an admiring light. That's a very brief
and sketchy account, but I hope it sheds a little light on the subject.
The literary side of things doesn't seem to get discussed much on
alt.satanism, but it shouldn't be underestimated. My own investigations
into Satanism began when I read "Paradise Lost" at 16 and fell horns over
hoofs in love...
-Kyr
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To: Zazas-L Elist (zazas-l@hollyfeld.org)
From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nocTifer)
Subject: Literary Satanism
Date: 1 Mar 1998 19:28:43 -0500
49970702 aa2 Hail Satan!
[this from private correspondence; please excuse the choppiness - n]
...literary Satanism is a vast subject and I'm only just
beginning a study of it, having perused through an overview of the
concept of 'the Devil' in Western literature as given by JBRussell (JBR)
(this included some nice pointers to the literary tradition of which
I will try to make note below; they also point to the *philosophical*
tradition amongst what I would class as Satanists (materialism, and
in particular atheism), and it was this upon which I'll been
focussing after my indulgence in a collection of graphics).
**********************************************************************
Literary Satanism
in reading JBR's overview of Milton's treatment of Satan in both of
the latter's works (Lost and Regained), I came away with the
impression that Satan was not at all the hero and instead that Milton
is sorely misunderstood by Western readers, inclusive and perhaps
*especially* by Satanists. I think JBR's text is worth a scan as
an argument in this light and that a thorough review of scholars
of literature who have interest in the matter is valuable in
pursuit of any resolution. I know when I tried to read Milton
directly it was not at all easy for me to parse. not quite as
daunting as King James English, but not too far beyond it in my
fair nonmodern-English illiteracy.
luckily the Abyss had Russell's _Mephistopheles..._ still checked
out from the local library, so I reproduce relevant portions:
The deep power of Milton's Satan raised a long-standing
debate as to whether Satan was the real hero of
_Paradise Lost_. The answer depends upon what one means
by "hero." In a purely literary sense, the hero is the
protagonist, the character who most moves the action
along. Dryden and others in Milton's own time saw Satan
as the hero in this sense. The action of the poem is
the struggle between Satan on the one side and Adam,
Christ, and the Father on the other. That three
characters are needed -- two of them divine -- are
needed on one side to balance one on the other indicates
the dramatic power of the one. Further, since only one
who changes can carry the action, the eternal and
unchanging Father can scarcely be the hero, and even
the Son is too remote and impervious. As protagonist,
Adam has severe limitations: half the battle between
God and Devil is already over before attention can focus
on Adam, and he is too passive, too acted upon -- by God,
Eve, and Devil -- to be the hero. (Some critics have
argued that the dramatic hero is really Milton or the
Reader.)
...Satan could be both opponent and hero; indeed, he
needed to be in order to make Christ's triumph in the
war in Heaven noble and magnificent....
...Milton was able to depict Satan as heroic and at the
same time cast doubts upon his heroism by taking an
ironic distance and showing in action, dialogue, and
asides that Satan's apparent heroism is sham. It is
hard to retain a heroic picture of Satan when one is
brought up against his incest with his daughter Sin,
his ugliness..., his stench..., his filth..., and his
grotesque parody of God.... Yet these are corrections
to our first impulse to admire his rich, sensuous,
lofty rhetoric and is determination to be true to
himself, enduring every defeat and agony in his fierce
his fierce adherence to his own identity in the face
of a superior power determined to destroy him.
Milton certainly knew what he was doing when he made
the character of Satan powerfully attractive. He
intended the reader to be caught up in admiration,
to feel the tug of attraction to the terrible, self-
indulgent prince of darkness, to feel the pull of
that darkness of self turned forever narrowly down
into itself instead of opened up courageously to the
broad world of light and beauty. He intended us to
identify with the Devil and then, as the poem
develops, to identify the gradual revelation of his
viciousness and his impotence with the understanding
of our own sin and weakness. Milton applied the
characteristics of the epic hero to Satan so that the
reader could see the emptiness of loveless heroism
in a world governed in reality by love. Though the
poetic personality of Milton's Satan is so strong
that those unfamiliar with Christianity can mistake
him for a noble figure (as the nineteenth-century
Romantics did...) *Paradise Lost* is best read in
the spirit in which Milton intended it.
{NOTE: Modern writers favoring the view
that Satan is the real moral hero include
W. Empson, *Milton's God*, 2d ed.
Cambridge, 1981). Those defending Milton
and Milton's own view include, above all,
C. S. Lewis, *A Preface to Paradise Lost*,
2d ed. (London, 1960). See also D. R.
Danielson, *Milton's Good God: A Study in
Literary Theodicy* (Cambridge, 1982);
R. Comstock, *The God of Paradise Lost*
Berkeley, 1986).}
...
As C. S. Lewis remarked, Satan is gradually
reduced from bright angel to peeping, prying,
lying thing that ends as a writhing snake.
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_Mephistopheles: the Devil in the Modern World_,
by Jeffrey Burton Russell, Cornell University,
1986; pp. 97-9, 112.
________________________________________________
given the above I think it valuable to reconsider whether the English
speaking came to know "the devil" in anything but a *Christian*,
albeit majestic, sense within _Paradise Lost_. one has to, in effect,
do what one does with popular Christian interpretations of Satan in
order to come up with any kind of complimentary perspective on Satan
from Milton. the apparent fact that Romantic poets were inspired in
their MISinterpretation of Milton does not make Milton more the
Satanic source.
in my previous contemplation of all this, and subsequent anger at the
fact that Milton and his Christian Satan have been so oft-portrayed
as Satanic, I tried to point out the real alternative (but a spark
or glimpse) in a small poem (this revisitation uncovered its absence!):
http://www.abyss.com/text/satanism/theory/tnlostpds.txt
whether Goethe (1808) provides a model of the modern Satanic hero
depends on whether you include Goethe's second half of his Faust
work, or whether you just treat the initial alone, I gather. I
have not got hold of the second portion as yet, only seen an
overview. the first part was quite strange and I didn't get the
impression that Faust was in it so much for power as knowledge
and as Goethe portrays it, is on a path of Christian salvation.
it seems to me that omitting specific mention of the details of
Geothe's _Faust_ may be best, instead providing an overview of
the Faustian tradition (perhaps beginning with Rabelais) as an
important element of Satanic inspiration ('pact with Satan').
after all, Goethe's is a work following on an extant depiction
of the theme in literary and puppetry sources (apparently as a
reflection of Marlowe).
Faust agrees with Mephisto to be his servant in the next world
if Mephisto is his during his life. the pact then transposes,
as Russell puts it, into a second wager that Mephisto derail
Faust from his striving and bid a moment of pleasure linger in
exchange for exposure to Mephisto's occult knowledge.
there is no selling of souls here for there is no acknowledgement
of such an object (per my memory of Part One and seemingly also
that of Russell). that is, Goethe's Faust is a scholar striving
for occult knowledge, and Mephisto as Devil engages him directly
for the purposes of ephemeral antagonism (as Russell points out,
Mephisto's limitation prevents the first pact from ever coming
to resolution with Faust's service, and the tale plainly turns
into a Christian success story in Part Two by Russell's reckoning
despite the lovelessness of Part One -- it appears that this
quality of lovelessness is a commonality betwixt Milton and Goethe,
and I suggest that it features precisely because they are Christian
writers exalting Satan as its lack and Christ as its fulfillment).
Russell I think correctly portrays Mephisto as not at all admirable:
Essentially blind to reality, Mephistopheles tries to
negate and destroy it. He denies the value of
existence and declares that the purpose of creation is
to be destroyed. He hates beauty, freedom, and life
itself; he causes the deaths of individuals and advocates
ruinous social policies that destroy multitudes. This
nihilism is the essence of evil, and it comes directly
from God.... Like the traditional Devil, Mephisto is
a liar and a cheater, a master of illusion who repeatedly
shifts his shape, appearing as a dog, a scholar, a knight,
a fool, a magician, and a general. With sophistry,
flattery, and gossip he sows doubt and distrust; he uses
his magic to instill illusions, hallucinations, and dreams;
as conselor of state he creates false wealth, and as a
general he destroys armies by committing illusory troops
to battle. The spirit of chaos and disorder in the natural
world, he also promotes disorder in society by disrupting
justice. He delights in cruelty and suffering. He tempts
and threatens in his efforts to corrupt and is most
pleased with the despair of the innocent. Incapable of
grasping what love means, he promotes coarseness and
brutality in sexual relations. He opposes social reforms
and crushes a revolution against tyranny. He regrets his
unfallen past but refuses to repent, falling into the sin
of despair. Yet he speaks for Goethe in his ironic
comments on philosophers, professors, fanatics, generals,
clergymen, bureaucrats, politicians, and exploitative
rulers.
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Ibid., pp. 159-61.
__________________
I don't see either of these as heroic in any meaningful
and lasting sense. I would take what little I know of Shaw's
Satan to be much more heroic in the sense of aesthetic refinement.
Russell quotes correspondence with Flaubert and states that:
more often, Baudelaire took Satan as the symbol of human
evil and perhaps even as a personal entity.
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Ibid., p. 206.
______________
thus what modern Satanists consider to be 'Baudelaire's Satan'
may in fact be a re-interpretation of Romantic or modern
writers/readers. the goth culture may well, perhaps like the
Romantics in the early 1800s, be re-interpreting and re-inventing
Satan to suit their needs while drawing mistakenly from those
who portrayed the Devil in substantially Christian ways.
uncited:
#>...For further reading see _The
#>Devil's Mischief_ By Ed Marquand 1996, _The Devil in Legend and
#>Literature_ by Maximilian Rudwin (latest reprint 1989 Open
#>Court), _Literature and Evil_ by Georges Bataille 1957, and _The
#>Devil's Race-Track: Mark Twain's Great Dark Writings_ 1966. The
#>greatest quick introduction to Satanism remains Huck Finn's
#>"Alright then I'll go to hell" speech when he decides to protect
#>Jim from the law....
thanks for these references. Russell's attitude toward Satanism
and in particular the Temple of Set is asinine, but my interest is
more with his specialization in philosophy and literature rather
than as an apparently distracted Christian religionist. my read of
Goethe and other texts he reviews is supportive of his acuteness
and depth of vision, and his preparatory remarks on evil and the
notion of analyzing literature in the history of concepts strikes
me as genius in its conciseness and insight into method.
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