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To: alt.magick
From: (Andralphus)
Subject: Re: organizations
Date: 4 Nov 2002 21:07:05 -0800

ajna  wrote in message news:...
> How do these thelemic (?) organizations like o.t.o, a.a. (and something 
> else?) differ from each other?

Crowley put it thusly in a letter to Karl Germer, his successor as
head of OTO:

"The difference between the A.·.A.·. and the O.T.O. is very clear and
simple. The A.·.A.·. is a sempiternal institution, and entirely
secret. There is no communication between its members. Theoretically,
a member knows only the superior who introduced him, and any person
whom he himself has introduced. The Order is run on purely spiritual

"The objective of membership is also entirely simple. The first
objective is the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian
Angel. The next objective, omitting considerations for the present of
the 6°=5 and 7°=4 degrees, is the crossing of the Abyss, and the
attainment of mastership of the Temple. This is described very fully
especially in Liber 418. Much less is written about the 5°=6 degree,
i.e. the Knowledge and Conversation, because it is too secret and
individual. It is impossible to lay down conditions, or to describe
the experiences in detail.

"The O.T.O. has nothing to do with this, except that The Book of the
Law and the Word of the Aeon are essential principles of membership.
In all other respects, it stands by itself as a body similar to
Freemasonry, but involving acceptance of a social and economic system
which is intended to put the world on its feet. There is also, of
course, the secret of the IX° which is to say, the weapon which they
may use to further these purposes. "

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