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OTO and Masonry

To: alt.freemasonry,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.order,alt.magick
From: musicman00873@aol.com (Lee Duncan)
Subject: Re: OTO and Masonry (was Aleister ...)
Date: 17 Dec 2001 07:08:24 -0800

333  wrote in message news:...
> 50011216 VI om 
> 
> signine@nin[antispam]jas.org (signal nine):
> > I know *of* a fair amount of members of the OTO who are extremely
> > high-ranking freemasons.  
> 
> do you know what "extremely high-ranking" or "freemason" means?
> there are many organizations which self-identify as masons, and
> there are lots of different initiatic structures. how many degrees
> do you think there *are*, for example, amongst masons? is "Master
> Mason" maybe 33rd degree or something, as you see it? just curious.

That's an excellent question. The term "high ranking Mason" is used
often by anti-Masonic propagandists, and actually has little, if any,
meaning.
 
> >The OTO, however, is a Masonic order, down to the letter.
> 
> funny, its officials disclaim this. why do you think it is hidden from
> its own membership and its officers deny what you have claimed? are
> you aware that early on the masonic character was claimed and then
> this aspect of its claims (aside from other wild claims about holding
> the Secrets of the Universe, Universal Medicine, whatever) was stopped?

This, again, is correct. Theodore Reuss, original Frater Superior of
OTO, listed it as an "Academica Masonica", but turned right around in
the next paragraph distancing it from regular Masonry. Reuss himself
was a regular Master Mason at one time, but seems to have been dropped
NPD. Crowley, in revising the ritual of OTO, completely de-Masonicized
the degrees from Minerval to Master Magician. From what I can tell,
the OTO grades above the Master degree still mirror those of the
Cernaeu Scottish Rite, and Ancient and Primitive Rites of Memphis and
Mitzraim. However, the OTO does not claim to be a Masonic body, and is
not affiliated with any regular Masonic Grand Lodge nor Scottish Rite
Supreme Council. It is an autonoymous fraternal organization based, in
its present form, on the teachings of Aleister Crowley and his
successors (although, just who his successors were is the subject of
many hilarious debates). :o)
Sincerely,
Lee Duncan, WM-elect
Judson Lodge No. 319 AFM
Greenville, SC
"He has lived...the fruits of his labors live on after him." - Albert
Pike

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