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OTO and AA Connections

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.order,alt.magick
From: nigris333 
Subject: OTO and AA Connections (Re: Statement by the Highest Authority of the A.'.A.'.)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:41:42 GMT

50010611 VI! om Hail Satan!

>> The point remains: The A.'.A.'. is not affiliated in any way 
>> to the OTO, save in the deluded minds of OTOs. (B Heidrick):
> That's odd to remark, since it's what OTO has said all along, 
> other than that deluded bit.  :-)

not "all along". there have been numerous references to the AA
as unofficially related to the (c)OTO by OTO members in the recent 
past within rather public archives. in fact, the article "Consider
the Source" in the biannual newsletter of OTO ("Magical Link",
page 10) is a clear statement from the head of the O.T.O. that
"a resigned O.T.O. officer" created "the Temple of Thelema,
an occult group in Los Angeles" which "purports to act as a
training group for the A.'.A.'.

moreover, there are many obvious even public dual-memberships
between O.T.O. and a variety of A.'.A.'. or A.'.A.'.-related
groups, of which the T.O.T. is only one among many. while it
may be technically correct that officials of the O.T.O. have
not specified a FORMAL relationship between the two (or more)
orders, there has been an INFORMAL relationship between the
two since Crowley and his cohorts created the A.'.A.'. and he
wrote his "One Star in Sight" describing his vision of how it
ought be organized (cf. the back of Dover's "Magick in Theory
and Practice" if not other "Book Four: Liber ABBA" publishings).

this informal relationship has been the cause of internal order
conflict as loyalists to the previous Caliph (Hymenaeus Alpha,
aka Grady McMurtry) in CA have been placed in the hotseat
concerning their A.'.A.'. affiliations (because the CA and NY
factions support different A.'.A.'. lineages) by the NY officials
(notably Hymenaeus Beta). whether or not these conflicts come
to resolution (as has apparently come to pass with the
periodical 'The Red Flame' published by the Corneliuses; cf. especially the
epistles regarding expulsion, parts I, II, and III) is of no
consequence to the real problems that A.'.A.'. rivalries are
causing to the integrity and composure of the (c)OTO.
333, II' of (c)OTO

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