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GD Perspective on OS Thelemic Switch?

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.thelema,alt.magick.order,alt.pagan.magick
From: ({ Secret Chief })
Subject: Re: GD Perspective on OS Thelemic Switch?
Date: 13 Dec 2002 07:14:51 -0800

Re O'Stat  wrote in message news:...

> No. I would be more inclined to say that since Crowley claimed that his 
> AA replaced the GD, adding Thelemic concepts to the GD turns it into an 
> AA without lineage.

I think this statement is based on a misunderstanding of the AA.

For instance, whereas the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was both
fraternal and magical, the AA was stricly magical.  Many of the AA
grades did not even have initiation ceremonies.  In those initiation
ceremonies that were used, the number of officers was kept *very*
small, in keeping with the principle that a member of the AA not know
any other members of the order besides his immediate superior and
inferior.  Thus the AA resembles Martinism more than the Masonic
Rosicrucianism of the GD.

Furthermore, the Neophyte ritual of the AA (Liber Troa) departed
*much* further from the Golden Dawn setup than the OSOGD's.  The
principle officers were Hermes/Tahuti/the Word in the East,
Asi/Demeter/Life in the Southwest, and Hades/Hoor-Apep/Death in the

See, for example, Liber Pyramidos, a self-initiation ritual based on
Troa.  The first link has the entire thing but no floorwork specified,
the second has only the opening but has the floowork:

[I also discuss the AA Neophyte opening about halfway down in my essay
on the Paris Working (]

Thus the OSOGD is *closer* to the HOGD than the AA in that it is both
fraternal and magical and also in that its 0=0 ceremony is based on
the square East-West model rather than Liber 671's triangular
East-SW-NW model.

- Secret Chief

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