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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,talk.politics From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (nigris (333)) Subject: Thelema without Al? Date: 24 Jul 1999 00:14:04 -0700 49990128 IIIom E6 a correspondent wrote: # Will, under love. # This reply references the comment about calling oneself a # thelemite, and Liber Al: I love this (esp. the former) subject. # Is there such an animal as a non-Crowley thelemite? tons of 'em, as any reading of even Crowley will legitimate. the Thelemite is one who seeks the true will and abides it closely. this could include absolutely NO familiarity with Crowley, discussion about (true or nontrue) wills, or the "New Aeon". it necessitates a familiarity with this Law (i.e. PRINCIPLE) of action and being. those who mistake a book for a Law deserve the repercussions. # Other than Rabelais? Rabelais was merely one who popularized it in fictional text (thereby influencing Crowley, who influenced others). there are plenty of people whose text exhibit what I would call Thelemic character who knew little if anything about Rabelais or those like him. we're talking about a philosophic foundation of ethics and accomplishment here, that which takes the verve of life-force and runs it like a science to its mastery. what terms one may use in coming to describe it is SECONDARY. that it may be twisted into an insipid religion is unfortunate, but one of the important ways that social knowledge becomes hard-wired (through the ill-tasting broth of fundamentalism). # What does it believe? it believes whatever the fuck it wants to and which supports its apprehension of the Law in the lives of those which make it up. belief is relatively inconsequential to the dynamics in the life of the individual and what they are able to accomplish. they may believe the most inane and implausible things, but if they are attuned to their true will and abiding this to achieve their utmost, then these beliefs become mere footnotes in the history of their greatness. note that we have a confusion of the Law for want of cult, here, with people self-identifying as Thelemites for their own purposes, whereas if we took to applying the term only to those whom we found were solidly attuned to their wills and achieving the Great Work, there'd be far less confusion and we could follow the predominant ascriptions to true greatness. instead we have descriptions of 'Thelemites' based on club membership, self-definition, arrogance, and the desire to be SEEN rather than to BE, resulting in every imaginable type of individual from the weak-willed to the master called 'Thelemite'. the calling is doing no wrong, as the Evul Book proclaims, but it is often misguided. # I suppose one would not become the center of pestilence # that many of uncle AL's followers have become, if one # never read AL. reading scripture isn't the real problem, it is obsessing over it or becoming fanatical about it. this is why I have suggested that the Evul Book has become for the Crowleyite community a tar baby, along with the other works of the Great Beast. # Love, free! E666 nagasiva@luckymojo.com (nigris (333)) -- emailed replies may be posted; cc replies if response desired
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