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To: alt.magick From: "Nuit"Subject: Re: PLEASE FINALY AWNSER Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:43:47 -0700 "Chris" wrote in message news:cHuV6.100250$Be4.31497600@news3.rdc1.on.home.com... > Ok could someone please tell me what this facsination with Babalon the Whore > is ? The AA The OTO and TOT etc etc. Often claim to be serveants of the > light. You apparently have a specific idea in your mind of what Babalon is about, and have decided you don't like this idea and can't see it as being "of the light." It's possible you don't have the same idea about Her that her devotees have; or that you do have the right idea, but are unable to that Her attributes are "of the light." In a Qabalistic framework, Babalon is the divine expression of the Sephirah Binah; that is, She is the wholly divinized idea of the feminine, encompassing more aspects than I could name here. These include ideas reminiscent of Bast and Sekhet, Shakti and Kali, and others. The phrase "of the light" (that is, L.V.X.) is a little misleading, too. If I were to say, "Oh, no, you've got Her all wrong, She's *not* of the Light, She's of the Dark," that would give the wrong idea because you'd probably think I meant the *infernal* darkness. I do not. I mean the Supernal darkness, which Crowley called N.O.X. (That's the problem of either-or, Light vs. Dark thinking.) This N.O.X. is not the antithesis of L.V.X., but more its successor in the spiritual journey. It is the consciousness of the Supernals by the gateway of Binah, as L.V.X. is the consciousness of Adepthood by way of Tiphareth. Think of the blissful, splendid, unending darkness of outer space the comes *after* one rises into the air-refracted solar light of the atmosphere. This is not at all the darkness that comes from digging a whole in the ground and climbing in. It is *more LIGHT* than the Light. It appears dark because the personality's sensorium cannot assimilate it. It's "darkness" is akin to what St. John called "the Dark Night of the Soul," which is a dry fever of love for God so passionate and overwhelming that it burns us painfully and without release. Babalon is called "whore" for many reasons besides the purely physical-sexual. But, especially, She is an aspect of divinity that absorbs all -- that "takes all comers." She is that within us which remains open to taking in indiscriminantly, and being filled by, anything and everything that comes in the course of life. We happily spread our legs for every experience that wants to have its way with us! Your paragraph gives some clues to what you consider "not of the Light": > I would like to know how certain magicians who are on the right hand > path, in service to the Tetragrammaton, to purity, to light, to passivness, > to control etc. First, who said we were in service to Tetragrammaton? We may, or may not be. If IHVH is your image for the Most High, then that which you are calling by that Name, I would call by another. Regardless - you profess to be trying to understand where others are coming from. The ancient Gnostic view of IHVH is as the brat upstart Demi-Urge who reaches no farther up the Tree than Chesed (He is of the number 4) -- that is, falls below the Abyss, outside the Supernal realm, as a mental-moral construct. If this is the IHVH you mean, then Babalon is a higher idea. If you mean the early Kabbalistic references to IHVH as the Divine Name of Tiphareth, then Babalon, as Lady of Binah, is the higher idea. Purity? Yes, absolutely, though we would probably differ on what the word means. (It certainly doesn't mean prudish, for example. All sexuality is sacred.) In service to passiveness? I'm sure we differ more here than in anything else you said! Receptive, yes. Taking all comers, yes. Passive? No. (Except as a delicious counterpoint to Active.) Control? Discipline is an essential part of the Great Work, just as it is to great sex. Also, surrender is essential to both. (Even at the gutter level, if you think a typical whore is without control, you should go out and meet a few more. because you've got the *wrong* idea, babe.) > No one awnsers me straight out, I haven't been watching this thread very closely, but it seems to me you've gotten quite a few candid answers. > and in Liber ABA Crowley says that this information shall be transmitted only orally. . Some of it *can* only be translated orally. > Is it just that I > underatnd the meanings of these icons, or am I dead on when I say they are > more "negative", "dark" and "left hand pathed"? As you have seen, some people who identify themselves as LHP embrace these deities as falling in that category. But they are not so narrow. Any Supernal idea stands outside dualistic labels of this kind from below the Abyss. It is correct to use the terms the way you intend them. On the other hand, 'negative' is just another word for 'feminine' in some ways, and electromagetically is that to which the 'positive' is always drawn. Dark is how some people like the room. 'Left hand path' is considered the *light* path in some Eastern traditions, and for the rest, it's where I might show you to let your fingers roam -- if you were a lot luckier than you are. > I dont find much light and wisdom in Bapthomet You are, perhaps, unaware that "Baphomet" was a Kabbalistic code word that a group of Christian military monks coined to veil the Gnostic idea of Sophia -- one of the most sublime and holy ideas ever to infuse Western civilization's spirituality. > and esspecially in the Whore. When i think of the > brilliance of KETHER and the host of arch-angels, The whore is not exactly > imagery that I find to be consitant with these holy creatures. Respectfully, I submit that you cannot think of the brilliance of Kether. Respectfully, I suggest that your highest idea of Kether is no more than a reflection of Tiphareth and might, in fact, really be only a reflection of that in Yesod. This is not intended as a put-down of any kind. Kether is beyond thought. The hosts of Archangels of which you speak are a lesser domain of spiritual being than Babalon. She is the Supernal Queen to whom they turn in adoration. > The baphomet is not exactly a symbol of Light and goodness to me. Then it would be a shame for *you* to worship that symbol. But it *is* a symbol of high spiritual ideas and ideals to many other. > Could someone please explain this, because I honestly would like to get > things straight. I'm taking you at your word and doing my best. 93 93/93 -- 56
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