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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,talk.religion.misc,sci.archaeology From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Subject: Various: The Stele of Revealing Date: 18 Jun 1997 12:46:06 -0700 ================================================== [from julianus@enteract.com] 93! Fabio wrote: > > Is there anyone who knows if there is the "Stele of Revealing" in > original language? "The Holy Books of Thelema" (Equinox III/9) Weiser, 1983. Appendix A is entirely devoted to the Stele. It features no less than three separate transliterations and translations of the hieroglyphs including the Boulak translation Crowley worked from in 1904 as well as a modern one. The new "Book Four" includes colour plates of the original Stele (as opposed to Crowley's reproduction.) The problem with wanting the "original language" is that there is no certainty as to just how Ancient Egyptian was pronounced. They didn't write in the vowels, and its only modern descendent (Coptic) is almost a dead language itself and has naturally changed much over the last two-score centuries. No Egyptologist would claim that any modern translation really captured the full subtlety of the original. > I ask this 'cause in MITAP is indicated a part: "A ka dua - Tuf ur biu - > Bi a'a chefu - Dudu ner af an nuteru", maybe there's more of it > somewhere. > Well, there's a whole Stele worth. BTW did you know that the sarcophagus of Ankh-af-na-Khonsu is in the British Museum? Does anybody out there know if the hieroglyphs on THAT have been translated and published? Seems to me that there should be some interesting things on that.... > And for the Papyrus Ani in the original language? > Budge's "Book of the Dead" is available fron Dover Books. Not very good by modern standards, but it does include the complete hieroglyphic text. Jim Wasserman's new edition features the standard modern translation with a facsimile of the entire papyrus. 93/93! John ================================================================== [from Arild Stromsvag] At 06:35 PM 6/13/97 +0000, you wrote: >93! > >Jeffrey Smith wrote: >> >> Can you give an exact location of Old Ankhie's coffin? I will hopefully >> be visiting the BM myself in a couple of weeks, and knowing which gallery >> to look in would help. > >Spot on! > >> I presume it would be in the Egyptian collection... I hope to disappoint you, guys, but Ankh-f-n-Khonsu was the 'John Smith' of his age. The name was extremely common, and the coffin at the BM does not belong to 'our' Ankh. I had to do some research on this when I for one glorious moment some years ago thought I had discovered something nobody else knew about. I have the letter from the curator in charge of the Egyptian and Assyrian collections in my files somewhere. Still worth a vivit, though... Arild ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EOF -- (emailed replies may be posted) ------- join the AMT syncretism!!! see http://www.abyss.com/tokus ---------- call: 408/2-666-SLUG!! "Sure, kid. It's the truth. Trust me. Where's your money?" - TShuler
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