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Various: Many OTOs

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.magick.order,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,alt.occult
From: (nagasiva)
Subject: Various: Many OTOs
Date: 12 Sep 1997 13:28:07 -0700


~From: Barrington Vincent Sherman 

XCiii PAN!

It is a damn interesting hobby of mine to "study" thelemic society & 
polity esp.  Glad to meet an other :)

Now for the pendantics...

> (B)OTO  Bertioux's OTO

This group goes under the name ORDO TEMPLI ORIENTIS ANTIQUA viz, OTOA.  
Wonder how many here on the list are willing & able to volunteer this 
information ;0

> (C)OTO  Caliphate OTO
> (P)OTO  Panamanian foundation OTO

Who have we here please tell me more?

> (P)OTO  Parzival OTO foundation (William? Barden)
> (S)OTO  Society OTO (Motta)

(db)OTO in Usa... David Bergson or however you spell it.  One of many 
(s)OTO successors

> (SC)OTO Knights of the Solar Cross OTO (Geoff Smith)

Who have we here please tell me more?

> (SP)OTO Parzival OTO foundation (William? Barden)
> (SW)OTO Swiss OTO

I prefer (m)OTO; Metzger OTO

> (T)OTO  Typhonian OTO

I have also heard of South African (sa)OTO, Brazilian (br)OTO -& that some 
un specicified amount have put themselves under (c)OTO jurisdiction so 
this group may no longer be extant or at least abit depleted of membership.
Frank Bennet Australian OTO (a)OTO this group is really more of an AA 
from my experiances with them, unclarified on this one.
> With my good wishes
> Ben
> 93                                       93/93

All of the above to all of the above


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~From: maat@IO.COM (C.L.K.)

Hi, 93,

>Actually, it's Cthonic-Auranian OTO, and if I remember correctly their 
>literature implied that they saw ALL claimants as legitimate to some 

Gee, I remember it as the A-C OTO. It was/is organized into 3 grades, the
Hermit, the Lover, and, well, you get it.  Everyone currently incarnate is
a member of the Grade of Man of Earth.  Lovers get an initiation by asking 
for it, Hermits play what I like to call the Sovereign game. Meaning, that
once you know you are Sovereign, you proclaim yourself so. And if two other
Sovereigns affirm this, then it becomes a 'recognized' fact. This is simply
my interpretation - but then, that's kind of what the A-C OTO was/is all about.

>BTW anybody know what ever happened to Bill Seibert?  Last I heard he 
>was in New Orleans.  

I believe you can find him most days in Jackson Square in the French Quarter, 
doing tarot. His sign reads "Alobar and Raven". His hair is bright. Colors

93 93/93

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    to Chokmah, but the Magician
    proceeds directly to Binah."

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