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Thelema and Magick

From: (Xiwangmu)
Subject: Re: Thelema and Magick
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 21:08:08 -0400


do as you please

|From: "Donald M. Wallace" 
|Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 17:42:27 -0400

|To what extent do you consider Thelema to be a magickal philosophy? 

Thelema includes many different philosophical constructs.  To attempt
to boil it down to 'a magickal (sic) philosophy' or a 'nonmagical
philosophy' demonstrates a fundamental ignorance of the extent of its
features.  In fact, it is easier to locate Thelema within a system
of values than ideas: of individualism, autonomy, self-esteem, etc.

|To what extent do you consider it to be contradictory to such magickal 
|forms as the Craft, to Chaos Magick?

'The Craft' is not 'a magical form'.  It is a cluster of neomasonic
ritual and thealogical systems typically associated with Northern
European geographix and the ambiguous, Satanic, name of 'Witchcraft'.

If you really want to be picayune, 'the Craft' isn't magical at all,
being but the remnant of a social meme-storage system dedicated to
structural ritual recall and the instillment of social values (i.e.

'Chaos Magick' is also not 'a magical form', it being mostly an
approach to magical style: eclectic, syncretic, imaginative, and
not necessarily consistent with original theoretical leanings,
though a 'Fundamentalist Chaos Magick' (I call them 'Chayoats')
is indeed developing.

'Thelema' is not contrary to any particular magical style.  This is
because it is a principle which may be applied within any context,
by any person whatever.

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