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To: tyagi@HouseofKaos.Abyss.com (xiwangmu) From: Peter KoenigSubject: Re: OTO Disputes Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:45:11 +0200 Dear Brothers and Sisters of course, everything that I write may be published: BUT PLEASE TO IMPROVE/CORRECT MY POOR eNGLISH!!!!! Heidrick: ># Crowley originated the application of the term to OTO. It is from >#Islam, being the formal title of the line of authority descended from >#a lateral line of the relations of Mohammed, after failure of the direct >#lineal descendants. my answer: "CALIPH" IS THE TERM FOR THE "OFFICE" OF THE PROPHET. I would like to see a OTO-statute or a clear official OTOsaying that connects the term "Caliph" to any office of any OTO. Crowley explained it to Grady in a few letters, stating >#that he wished to insure continuation of the headship of OTO by this means. my answer: THIS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A FASCIMILE OF THE DOCUMENT > >#Crowley told Grady to be ready to assume headship of the OTO in the event >#of a failure of Karl Germer to either make a success of leadership or to >#name his own successor. my answer: I DONT THINK THIS TO BE TRUE. CROWLEY WROTE SEVERAL LETTERS SAYING THAT MCMURTRY IS A CALIPH ALTHOUGH gERMER IS THE "NATURAL CALIPH" (this one in one letter), BUT THIS IS NOWHERE EXPLAINED AS SUCCESSOR TO CROWLEY. CROWLEY ALWAYS WANTED GERMER AS HIS SUCCESSOR - AND FRIEDRICH MELLINGER, AS WELL. MELLINGER LIVED UP TO THE 1970S AND WAS A COLLABORATOR OF METZGER'S OTO IN SWITZERLAND. To this end, Crowley wrote a series of letters >#to Grady, giving him various authorities.... my answer: ONLY AS HIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR CALIFORNIA AND AS REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE us IN CASE GERMER DID NOT INTERVENE. BUT GERMER HAD A LOW OPINION OF MCMURTRY, FORBADE HIM TO WORK ALONG OTO-LINES AND CLOSED THE AGAPE LODGE IN 1953. MCMURTRY'S OPENING OF ANY AGAPE LODGE HAS NO AUTHORITY AND ONLY CAN BE CONSIDERED AS A NEW FOUNDATION OF 1977 > >#Finally, Crowley wrote to Grady with the instruction that Germer was "the >#natural Caliph", would be A.C.'s direct successor, but that Grady should >#continue himself in readiness to succeed Germer. SINCE MCMRUTRY DID NOT ANSWER TO THIS LETTER, CROWLEY AFTERWARDS MADE FRIEDRICH MELLINGER TO SUCCEED GERMER > >#-- This latter characterization of Germer as "Natural Caliph" is different >#from the Islamic, indirect line, usage. > >are you aware of these letters, Br. Koenig? do you think that Br. Heidrick >would lie about them? my answer. I DO HAVE THESE LETTERS BUT WOULD NOT USE THE TERM "LIE" FOR WHAT IS HEIDRICK DOING. HE TRIES TO SAVE HIS PHANTASIES WHICH HE BUILT AROUND HIS FOUNDING OF A NEW AGAPE LODGE WHICH HAS NO MAGICKAL CURRENT weren't they the basis for the 9th Circuit Court's >decision? YES, THEY WERE. BUT THE COURT DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE RULINGS OF THE 1ST CIRCUIT OF APPEALS AND HEIDRICK AND MOTTA SETTLED AN OUTER COURT AGREEMENT NOT TO MENTION E.G. METZGER OR GRANT AS POSSIBLE OTO HEADS BECAUSE THEY KNEW (HEIDRICK AND MOTTA) THAT THEY WOULD LOSE THE CASE IF THE COURT KNEW. (THIS I HAVE IN WRITTEN EVIDENCE OF A WITTNESS OF THE OUTER COURT SETTLEMENT) I'd like to get your opinion on this matter and determine with >some precision why it is that all of these OTOs are fighting with one another. >=================== > >pertinent to that is the question of H.Beta's lineage and the controversy >about 'postal consecration'. I asked Br. Heidrick whether this was accurate >and he replied that: > >#The present Patriarch has such a connection (not exactly that, but similar) >#in one of the two lines he claims to the Wandering Bishops. Under Grady's >#line, there is no such intangible linkage, all being by laying on of hands. my answer: WHERE'S THE PROOF FOR ALL THAT, MCMCURTRY HAVING HAD cROWLEY'S HAND SOMEWHERE? CROWLEY NEVER NEVER WAS A BISHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I HAVE SEEN CROWLEY'S "CHARTER" FOR BERNARD CROW THAT MAKES CROW THE PATRIARCH OF THE GNOSTIC CATHOLIC CHURCH OF CROWLEY'S VERSION OF THE CHURCH. IN 1944. > >is this also your understanding? if so, what difference does it make as >regards the 'purity' of the Caliphate OTO's connection to the Gnostic >Wandering Bishops? my answer: WHY DOES A THELEMITE NEED APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION? ONLY ORDERS AND ORGANISAZIONS DO NEED SUCH IN ORDER TO HAVE A MAGICKAL CURRENT OR, AS IN THE CASE OF THE "cALIPHATE", TO BENEFIT FROM SO-CALLED COPYRIGHTS, THAT IS: MONEY. THE "CALIPHATE"S OTO CONNECTION TO THE GNOSTIC WANDERING BISHOPS IS ONLY MARGINAL/MINIMAL. IF THEY WOULD NOT RECEIVE IT, NOWADAYS, FROM SOME VERY VERY FEW "REAL" GNOSTIC BISHOPS OUTSIDE THE THELEMIC CONTINUUM, THEY HAD NO "GNOSTIC APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION". IT'S ONLY IN THEIR MINDS OR IN THEIR STATUTES, E.G. LINKING THEIR HOLY GHOST WITH SOME CROWLEY-OTO-INITATIONRITUALS .... FUNNY IDEA: TO LINK A CHRISTIAN CONCEPT WITH SOME PSEUDO-FREEMASONICRITUALS ... AND TO PRETEND THIS TO BE THELEMIC . DOES SOMEBODY REMINDS THE "GNOSTIC CAHTOLIC CHURCH"SCANDAL OF THE LATE 1989S? > >thank you for your time. > >E6/6/6 > >Sr. Mu >tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com > ALWAYS BE PREPARED TO ANSWER FURTHER QUESTIONS SINCERELY peter Peter-R. Koenig
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