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To: alt.magick.chaos From: bheidrick@aol.com (B Heidrick) Subject: OTO and Politics Date: 31 Oct 1994 10:25:02 GMT Quoting: >Brian Rea (mrdude@indy.net) writes: 93 >(unreported? wow...) Right, blamed P.O. fundies for destroying the mail. That has happened in Manchester England, even down to stuffing half burned OTO outbound correspondence back into a home mail slot after it was mailed at the postoffice. However, records weren't kept properly and no effort was made to restore the data after this problem was reported. It took me half a year in addition to run down most of the records via witnesses of the initiations all over the Mid-West for the Minn. case. Still not sure I got them all, but looks 95% sure. Got over half of the dues back too, but that isn't as important as recording the degrees and such. >as I was a second degree at the time. I pay less attention to gossip than to maintaining the mailing list. Sorry to cut you short on your degree at the time, but I have enough now to know you are you --- you caught the city and the degree trick, something somebody pretending to be you would likely not have done. >I built furniture for the TOT Questions. How much of the disturbance was OTO and how much TOT? How much both having problems with each other? Was it a general melee or were two or three different groups hard-timing and one-uping each other? I'm not trying to fix blame, but trying to see if we have seeds of other problems visible here. OTO and TOT had an unnecessary tension a few months ago. If we can see how these things happen without the awareness of the hierarchy, we may be able to anticipate and prevent such problems a little better. OTO frequently sees difficulties of the sort you have mentioned when a group grows too fast in a new area. After a year or sometimes two, cliques form and interests become intrenched. New or other groups with different allegiances may start to overlap and frictions develop. In such circumstances, different orders tend to blame each other --- even though the problems may be unrelated to the different orders in themselves. >As for 'running off with *his* wife' as you put it, she was >her own person, and chose to come with me freely.... Right, but that didn't make Rusty happy. You see, being right isn't all of it. People will have their predictable reactions to chaos at times like this. Magick partly consists of being able to stand back a bit and see the microcosm in a pattern. If you can learn that, you won't be so easily trapped in pain when your local pattern starts heaving. Rusty simply got his wheels straightened out and located wife number (was it 4 or 5 by then?). You, on the other hand, have allowed yourself to dwell on things best healed and forgotten. These named demons and flashy symbols have their social and human fields of action. The Magician needs to take the vision down to the abyss of manifestation if Magick is to be any good while you are incarnated. >I'd love to hear what versions of any other stories anyone >else has about this! It's fun to be 'infamous' hehehe (just kidding) I'm the one, remember, that Motta started calling Gothic names like "Gray Eminence" after the 1985 e.v. trial. Poor fellow didn't live long enough, but he started concocting sinister theories about me that could have been quite entertaining if his ticker didn't give out. That whole OTO v. SOTO thing was another example of chaos run amuck --- Motta could have gotten most of what he wanted earlier, before we found out that he hadn't even been a member of O.T.O. As it was, he too looked only at the whole pattern, rather than the part he fastened on, to see what advantages could be obtained. 93 93/93 Bill Heidrick
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