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Monks of Thelema

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From: (nigris (333))
Subject: Monks of Thelema
Date: 3 May 1997 03:07:06 -0700

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David Greiner wrote:

>I think this discussion is getting out of hand,

Hey you kids! Get away from there! Put that down!

>Thelema, no matter how you cut it,
>or flip the coin, started when Crowley publish the Book of the Law and
>other thelemic texts.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Your opinion is not 
a universal truth - that's my opinion. 

>If you want to follow Rabelais, than why not call
>yourself a Rabelasian? Why would you choose to call yourself a Thelemite?

By your logic, someone who 'follows' Crowley would be a Crowleyite.
Perhaps a Crowleyian Thelemite. Last time I looked, I wasn't following
anybody. I have benefited greatly by reading Crowley and adopting some
of the practices he recommended, but frankly, I can say that about a
great many mages and philosophers whos wisdom and instruction has crossed
my path and informed my ways.

About _The Monks Of Thelema_ by Besant and Rice (1878).  It's a novel. 
A Victorian potboiler. Truth to be told, I haven't given it a close read.
I have read some of it.  Chapter One describes a Ceremony of Reception, and
somehow, its detail is reminiscent of Energized Enthusiasm. It is most 
certainly about an Abbe Of Thelema, located in England. There is a trial
in the middle of it with Brother This and Sister That contesting each other
and quoting extensively the Code Of Love. Central to the novel is the Abbe,
composed of men and women who are under various vows of conduct, secrecy,
and fealty to one another. I'm going to give it a close read soon, after
which I may synopsize it, or at least outline its main points and anything
that I believe A.C. might have picked up on from it.  I know that he read 
it, because he mentioned it somewhere in his voluminous writings....

I think Crowley was a brilliant synthesist. He drew from all systems he
found useful, and melded them into his system. He had good teachers who
specialized in this technique (Mathers and Reuss leap to mind). IMHO, to
deny that the ideas of Rabelais and his Abbey were extant, discussed, and
romantisized in the Victorian era is to put the blinders on and deny

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