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To: fiatlvx@cmns.think.com From: Barry ShermanSubject: Re: Gnostic Mass Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 05:22:37 -0600 (CST) mgraffam@mhv.net (Michael Graffam) |On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Kevin Sahr wrote: | ...I'm searching for a copy of the pre-Crowley Gnostic Mass | of the EGC, or, alternately and perhaps the same, a copy of the | Gnostic Mass used by those portions of the EGC which have not | accepted the Book of the Law. Any pointers would be much appreciated! | |If anyone has info on this, please post if public or cc: it to me, |as I would be interested in this as well. Thankx For those who may not be familiar with the traditional history of this subject: It is asserted by the Caliphate OTO & many other Thelemic Jurisdictions that the Gnostic Mass aka Liber XV was written some time after july 1913-15? A. Crowley was travelling through Russia with a ragtime band whose name escapes me. However there are references to Crowley attending & endorsing some form of Mass before this date. I have also heard that what became the Gnostic Mass was originally commissioned by Papus to be the 18 degree [Rose Croix] of some Martinist/Memphis/Mizraim Rite. The commission was to Reuss & maybe Crowley to write-compile it. Reuss's version of the Gnostic Mass is by & large much the same. It does have some interesting variations, whether these be from an earlier mass or Reuss's customs, I don't know. As far as gnostic masses go, Doinel founded one branch of Gnostic Churches: Ecclesia Gnostica. He wrote a 'Mass' rendered in english `The Breaking of the Bread`. Bricaud of Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica/Universalis wrote another. Bricaud was formaly Doinel's student. Amberlain wrote a Mass as well. Bricaud was involved with Papus & may of been his Consecrator. Amberlain descends from both Papus & Bricaud I believe. Getting back to Crowley's Gnostic Mass; Ecclesia Gnostica Sacramentorvm has a passage in it's Canon `Commemoration of the Saints`, the 1st half of which appears in the Collects to The Saints, Liber XV. The 2nd half appears in The Consecration of the Elements, ibid. EGS has used the sentence `The Sanctuary of Holy Templars` to describe something of itself. Who influenced who? Do they come from a common source? I have included a synoptic comparison, to be formatted in 2 columns. The Canon of the Sarvm Mass, beginning 5th paragraph, pre Vatican II reckoning. Liber XV part 5 The Consecration of the Elements. The ceremonial is all but identical. The ritual is also suggestive of Thelemic perspectives on Christian concepts. Finally any discussion on the subject of Gnostic Liturgies is most welcome whether it be via Fiat Lvx or private. I have not been getting any mail whatsoever so if any one would do a test, a most welcome thanx to you! ___ pac xc sanct, I _ Barry I_I_I_ I, ,I_ ,
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