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To: alt.xyzzy,alt.magick
From: DngulSkarmaTathagatgarbha 
Subject: Crowley dates, places &c. was Re: Crowley Bibliographic Sources
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 16:05:31 -0700

tyaginator wrote:
> Joseph Littleshoes :
> # Hoping i  am not overlooking the obvious here but i did not see the Crowley
> # bibliography listed. I don't have a publishing history for it and i only
> # recall seeing it once in Shambala book store many years ago....
> # a vanity press  or self published local text.  
> 
> was it a book, or a pamphlet? saddle-stitch or square-bound? 
> author/editor? I've been finding more URLs related to AC 
> booklists (see below), and a couple (Parfitt? Yorke?) beyond this.
> 
> # ...As far as i know except for
> # a couple of examples none of the "un - published" stuff he left such 
> # masses of has ever been gone through and gathered into a workable format. 
> 
> that's one thing which I *have* seen in electronic form, but it was part of
> the University of TX collection correspondence listings, as I recall, and 
> possibly an internal list for the use of that collection and/or the OTO 
> (as its copyright owner).
> 
> here's what I found the other day that was Crowley-related:
> 
> 	-------------------------------------
> an 	AC Bios [Crowley Biography Booklist]
> 
> 	http://www.redflame93.com/ACBios.html
> 		==========================================================
> 		Part of the RedFlame Website (http://www.redflame93.com/)
> 
> the easiest way to find a bibliography online I've found is to search at Google 
> for it using the form ' bibliography'. here are some of the responses I 
> got when using 'Crowley bibliography' and '"Aleister Crowley" bibliography':
> 
> 	-------------------------------
> 	Aleister Crowley: Bibliography
> 
> 	http://www.poetry-archive.com/c/crowley_aleister_bibliography.html
> 	       ============================================================
> 	        Part of the Poetry Archive (http://www.poetry-archive.com/)
> 
> 	------------------------------
> 	Aleister Crowley Bibliography
> 	
> 		BIBLIOGRAPHY of the Published Works of ALEISTER CROWLEY
> 		A comprehensive annotated study in the Early Published Works 
> 		of Sir Aleister Edward Crowley. Compiled by Gerald Yorke
> 
> 			This annotated bibliography describes the binding,
> 			collation, different editions, publishing dates, (etc)
> 			of all the books published by, for & about Aleister
> 			Crowley during his lifetime. Starting with the
> 			privately printed 1898 Aceldama, and ending with
> 			the 1948 The Last Ritual. The bibliography separates 
> 			Crowley's published works into seven categories; 
> 			Poetry, Erotica, Plays & Novels, Magical & Thelemic 
> 			Writings, Translations, Pamphlets & Broadsides, and 
> 			Miscellaneous works. Useful to the Crowley collector. [TRI]
> 
> 	http://www.tridentbooks.us/acbiblio.html
> 
> 	------------------------------
> 	Aleister Crowley Bibliography
> 	
> 	http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/authors/Aleister_Crowley.htm
> 
> 	-------------------------------
> 
> plus there's also a booklist or two (w/ scant biblio info) at:
> 
> 	Index of the Technical Writings of Aleister Crowley
> 	http://www.geocities.com/nu_isis/libri2.html
> 	
> and	The Libri of Aleister Crowley
> 	http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/
> 
> ===================
> Additional Source
>  (for annotation)
> 
> [TRI]
> 
> TRIDENT BOOKS
> http://www.tridentbooks.us
> 
> tyaginator
later:
> 50040521 vii om 
> 
> 
> 
> Re Crowley Bibliographies and Reference Sources
> 
> tyaginator :
> # 	http://www.redflame93.com/ACBios.html
> # 		==========================================================
> # 		Part of the RedFlame Website (http://www.redflame93.com/)
> #
> # the easiest way to find a bibliography online I've found is to search at Google 
> # for it using the form ' bibliography'. here are some of the responses I 
> # got when using 'Crowley bibliography' and '"Aleister Crowley" bibliography':
> 
> a couple more to add to this set I found the other day and put aside until now:
> 
> 	Bill Heidrick's Cross References
> 	http://members.aol.com/bheidrick/
> 
> and the basic foundation from within which the above may be found:
> 
> 	A Guide to the Works of Edward Aleister Crowley (1875-1947)
> 	http://www.redflame93.com/DeskReference.html
> 
> # 	-------------------------------
> # 	Aleister Crowley: Bibliography
> #
> # 	http://www.poetry-archive.com/c/crowley_aleister_bibliography.html
> # 	       ============================================================
> # 	        Part of the Poetry Archive (http://www.poetry-archive.com/)
> #
> # 	------------------------------
> # 	Aleister Crowley Bibliography
> # 	
> # 		BIBLIOGRAPHY of the Published Works of ALEISTER CROWLEY
> # 		A comprehensive annotated study in the Early Published Works 
> # 		of Sir Aleister Edward Crowley. Compiled by Gerald Yorke
> #
> # 			This annotated bibliography describes the binding,
> # 			collation, different editions, publishing dates, (etc)
> # 			of all the books published by, for & about Aleister
> # 			Crowley during his lifetime. Starting with the
> # 			privately printed 1898 Aceldama, and ending with
> # 			the 1948 The Last Ritual. The bibliography separates 
> # 			Crowley's published works into seven categories; 
> # 			Poetry, Erotica, Plays & Novels, Magical & Thelemic 
> # 			Writings, Translations, Pamphlets & Broadsides, and 
> # 			Miscellaneous works. Useful to the Crowley collector. [TRI]
> #
> # 	http://www.tridentbooks.us/acbiblio.html
> #
> # 	------------------------------
> # 	Aleister Crowley Bibliography
> # 	
> # 	http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/authors/Aleister_Crowley.htm
> #
> # 	-------------------------------
> 
> these will be intgrated into the Occult Bibliographies website at
> 
> 	http://www.yronwode.com/nagasiva/occultbibliography.html
> 
> 
> 
> tyaginator

OK here ya go, my start on organizing, indexing, dating etc. some of 
these Crowley libers:

can't get right now the written/ composed dates on /all/ these yet...
but the first pub dates and places are mostly public domain/ known already.


here's the general form:

book-written | composed-versions | published editions known about or 
guessed at

1. Liber Xxxi: (Liber AL MS facsimile reproduced 10% original) : 
written/ received by dclxvi and rose edith crowley, 'Aiwass' as the 
Minister of Hoor Paar Kraat or "the Speaker" apr. 8-10, 1904 an. 0- 
al-Cahira: published Spring 1912 Eq. I(7) an. viii
2. Liber Ccxx: based on TS corrupted: 1909 privately pub. in a one /and/ 
three volume edition volume called "Thelema" ou "TE | LH | MA" Chiswick 
London: appeared in late 1909 maybe earlier?: an. v
3. Liber L: of the Cairo Working March-Apr. 1904: Eq. I(10) Fall 1913 an. ix
4. Tunis edition: incl. comment in class A: 'after 22 years of 
preparation': Tunis 1925-6 ou an. Xxi-xxii: from the Lair of the Lion; 
around the same time, <> is also published around this time
5. Book 4 part iii: written from ca. 1910- 1928 (an. v- an. Iii) Magick 
in Theory and Practice- being Book 4, part III publ. late 1929 (an. 
Iiii) Lecram Paris 4 vo. edition, London one volume subscriber edition 
1930: it's tangled history is very interesting beyond any interest in 
the topics danced around in this bizarre little opus
6. The text of Liber AL + Genesis Libri AL with class A comment and MS.: 
Equinox of the Gods : Eq. III(3) Fall 1936 [Magick w/o Tears says this 
Equinox of the Gods volume is really Book 4 part IV]
7. Liber Vii written 11pm Oct. 29, 1907 an. iii, published privately an. 
v 1909 in vo. ii of TE | LH | MA Chiswick London
8. Liber Lxv written Oct. 30- Nov. 3, 1907 an. iii published privately 
an. v 1909 in vo. i of TE | LH | MA Chiswick London
9. Liber Lxvi written Nov. 25, 1907 an. iii published Eq. I (7) Spr. 
1912 an. viii
10. Liber Ccxxxi written dec. 5-6 1907 (the fifth and sixth composed 
'arcana in Atus of Tahuti' & 'Sigils of Genii&c.' and Dec. 14, 1907 for 
'Sigilla 22' portion of Liber) and versification compased sometime in 
1911: publ. Eq. I (7) Spr. 1912 an. viii
11. Liber X written dec. 12, 1907 publ. Eq. I (6) fall 1911 an. vii
12. Liber Cd written dec. 13, 1907 publ. Eq. I (7)
13. Liber Xxvii written dec. 14, 1907 publ. Eq I (7)
14. Liber Dcccxiii written sometime in 1907-8 publ. privately in TE | LH 
|MA 1909 vo. iii Chiswick London
15. Liber I written sometime in 1911: pub. Eq. I(6) Fall 1911 London
16. Liber Xc written 1911: pub. Eq. I (6)
17. Liber cLXVI written 1911: pub. Eq. I (6)
18. Liber cCCLXX written 1911: pub. Eq. I (6)
19. Liber Cdxv written 1915: publ. ? 1970's? Class AB
20. Liber 963 class AB (only short introductory note is in class a): 
published Eq. I(3)
21. 333: published 1913, commentary written 1921
22. the world's tragedy: publ. 1910 Paris
23. Konx om Pax: started Aug. 1906 (date <> in 
Liber Xcv is written)
Ali Sloper: Dec. 18, 1906
xLI Feb 22, 1907
The Stone composed July 1907
issued Feb. 1908
24. Eight Lectures on Yoga composed Jan.- Feb. 1937 right around time of 
Sino-Japanese War
25. Tao te Ching or Te tao Ching Eq. III(8) publ. 1975, composed 1918?
26. Liber Aleph: composed 1916- 1920? publ. 1961-2
27. Liber Oz: publ. 1941
28. Liber 777- published anonymously 1909
29. Clouds Without Water: published 1909 author pseudonymous: "Rev. C. 
Verey" sections I-IV inspired by 17-year old Vera Snepp
30. Liber Xxi: composed 1918 published 1939
31. Little Essays Towrd Truth: published 1938
32. Liber CCXLII composed Sept. 1909
33. Heart of the Master: first published in German 1925, first published 
English version 1938 as "Khaled Khan" including 34.-35.
34. "A Biographical Note by "Gerard Aumont" (AC)
35. The Meditteranean Manifesto (composed late Sept. 1924 delivered 
March 5-April 5, 1925 Sidi Bou Said?)
36. "Old Comment" (previously "The Comment") Eq. I(7)
37. Collected Works: published 1905-7 in three volumes and a traveller's 
one-volume edition
38. ?

am collecting more dates, places, titles, and whatnot.

corrections, additions, suggestions welcome

there iz a fairly short list of institutions, private collectors, and 
whatnot that keep popping up in my searches, will post these too as soon 
as iz proper, along with the other interesting, related finds. will 
follow mla or some system later if needed, but for now, it is fast and 
loose. id est, will neaten up all this in a more tabular format if and 
when i get to it...

attacking this fairly methodically, relying on the editor's 
introductions, references, principal editions, &c. in various modern 
editions, some material in Confessions, and most prominently, the work 
already done by HBeta, redflame and other many more or less well-known 
persons/ sources.

BTW, don't actually /own/ any old version of any of these books 
(thirtie-three and poor), but the recent work done here really doesn't 
make this too important, only mentioned in case someone hits me up for 
somethihg rare: I don't have anything, man! Leave me alone. 

Magick Without Tears letter on <> is a not bad starting point/ 
rallying point to these weird windlestraws.


earlier:

farid al-qahar:
   > do what thou wilt
   >
   > 1-57863-308-7
   > 2004 Copyright Ordo Templ Orientis
   > www.oto.org
   >
   >
   > [first saw, advertised March ] i acquired sometime after April 
8-10, but
   > i think i saw a copy in late March, or early April.
   >
the printed date internally on Copyright, Library of Congress cataloging
info page says:
first publishing in 2004 by Red Wheel/ Weiser, LLC

published in arrangement with Thelema Media, LLC

Copyright 1926, 1938, 2004 Ordo Templi Orientis


...
however, a bookseller sticker said it was received mid-march sometime
the exact dates on these things are never very exact unless you bother
to look at more than shipping records etc.
i don't know the exact date, go to ThelemaMedia or York Beach.

   > This sets the nu standard for altar fetishes for the avid thelemicisst/
   > magick practicioner ou whatever you name the work. Let me tell you why:
   >
or its merely a nice nu edition.
either way, i recommend it

   >
   > 1. the cover is durable
   > the color advertised is well represented on the web, this is the color
   > of the hardcover
   > she is bright orange-red spangled with _gold_ and pure white
   > the cover materials is slick, pliant, porous and opaque
   > what is it? it is a bizarre clothbound volume (similar to the third of
   > volume three of the private Thelema 1909- coloured similarly?)
   > yes, you have other version of Liber AL, but this one takes the cake
the gold is shiny and turns black in the right ambient light, raised
the white is matte and stands nicely out from the brilliant orange-red
background, like shiny dancing bones

the durable cover a deep red- this red is probably what makes it QP not
ou clothbound?
   It looks and feels like a hardback or clothbound to me. I suppose
there's no one to say that some quality paperback masquerade as hardback
or clothbound - as far as i can tell it is a clothbound
hard cover the way i normally define clothbound or hardback

whatever. which i don't care, just noting. It may be classified as
'quality paperback' but she is hard and durable, not flimsy. this is
another 'brick' from the O.T.O.

i am still hoping volume IV no. (3) will still hit the shelves sometime
soon.

   >
   > 2. the pages are sturdy, and not cheap
IOW, white, no tacky gold edges
too expensive to do this feature decently (e.g. usd$100 for Dali deck
which is similarly outfitted with gold edges)

thick paper: i.e. for the serious collector in you, not for casual
introduction unless you have money to burn

   > Every page is too thick, like you were going to cut animal hides on it,
   > [i gave me first version to some /thelemic/ friends getting married:
   > replaced it within a week or so]
   > I just espied the facsimile pages, these are some 60% original, 600 dpi
   > i think, from Liber ABA 1994,7
   > these pages are all sturdy, this is the forbidden study version i
think 
   > the pages are seriously nice
   > the facs. pages are also especially clear for those accustommed to
   > squinting past floods of grey
   > this MS seems so well preserved and white (?!) considering its strange
   > circuitous histories
   >
   > design colors throughout consistent, balanced in golden ration amounts
   > of greyscale, red bright scarlet, black, white
   >
   > 3. the red strategically placed in the introduction is priceless: 
go buy
   > this book! if all the black ink faded, the red ink would surely make up
   > for it! the book is worth seventeen dollars for the red parts 
alone, not
   > including the silk place holder, which is red
   > the OTO seal is also red
   > the page numbers are red
   >
   > 4. editiones principes ou references et editorial note
   > since i've never bothered to buy a silly concordance, i keep forgetting
   > when book supposedly saw print etc.
   > voila, problem  solved with references
   > the editorial note further details the design and logik of the >edition

executive summary to some of the editorial: this edition is a
combination of two printings:
1926 Tunis and
1938 London

a) focus on the MS i.e. materials drawn from Tunis 1926 version
b) corrected reprint, last executed by WTSmith & approved by Author/
scribe AC



   >
   > 5. broadsheet style notices are the back exit to this volume
   > these two pages would make an excellent print, same size or larger
   >
or tee-shirts?

   > 6. what is reproduction is the age of art? buy this book for a 
friend if
   > not for yourself: spread the meme
   >
   > 7. the typeface is just consistently unobtrusive and energetic
   > throughout, a feast for your tired eyes. much better than what i am
   > accustomed to.
   >
   > 8. i really liked the publishing title page ou publishers frontispiece
   > (page 3) advertising weiser books in assoc. with OTO etc.
   > the floral border design seems very like mc escher or like the arts and
   > crafts style
   > rose edith crowley gets hir credit along with 'aleister' - long 
past due
   > credit given, a fine memorial
similarly good: the shiny gold fleurons (?) on the cover
depressed like a stamp, forming a small plain, pointing variously in/ out

   >
   > 9. the design and execution of this book as a whole is flawless as far
   > as i can tell
   > the great talismanic power of the book will surely reward its 
possessors
   > and creators with obscenely rich karma
the talismanic power of liber legis addressed in the Prophecy letter
MwTears.

wikipedia wwI:
     diplomatic origins:
student. Serb Bosnian, a Gavrilo Princip by Sarajevoassassinated in
throne, was June 28, 1914, Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria and heir
to the Austro-Hungarian throne, was

later:

Much of the fallen Chancellor's work was undone in the following
decades, as Wilhelm failed to renew the arrangement with Russia,
presenting republican France with the opportunity to conclude (1891-94)
a full alliance with the Russian Empire. Worse was to follow, as Wilhelm
undertook (1897-1900) the creation of a German navy capable of
threatening Britain's century-old naval mastery, prompting the Anglo-French
1904 of Entente Cordiale

and its expansion (1907) to include Russia.

i hope all our students know about Entente Cordiale
despite it's age- heard one brief story on it before the date

end: Aug 1918 ev

[alongside this:
Equinox volumes 1 numbers 1-10 1909-1913]



wikipedia wwII:
The war in Europe began on September 1st, 1939, when German troops
invaded Poland. However Japan had invaded China in 1937, and this is
sometimes considered to be the real start of the war.


circa 1904 april 8-10 cairo working
...
exact details impossible to determine as far as i can tell, but
make no mistake, conscious fabrication or no, this is one of the 
/entente cordiale/ dates. else, i suppose it depends on your 
thelemicicity er
sumthin. you make your own call. id est, there is not universal 
agreement that AC recieved the book on the dates he claimed. Certainly, 
it seems he penned it very close to this same date he claims, as I've 
seen no compelling evidence to suggest otherwise, and all the evidence 
in the world to think it likely that if it wasn't al-Cahira April 1904, 
it was a timeplacefix not too far away.




1909 ThE | LH | MA
privately published
London Chiswick Press

1912 March
Equinox vol. i no. vii An. viii
10% reproduction facsimile
London Wieland & Co.


September 1913
Equinox Vol. One Number Ten
Sol in Libra
originally titled Liber L
London Wieland & Co.

[June 18, 1914 - start of WWI]


1926 Tunis An. Io Sol Aries Luna Pisces
    From the Lair of the Lion
extremely limited. eleven copies eight reserved to friends.
comes with a box, how antique!

1936 Equinox volume iii no. iii/: Equinox of the Gods
London issued by the O.T.O.
facsimile MS without reduction (?!)

the really important one here, is 'how thou didst come hither'
EotG not identified as such internally, but MWoTears says it is part
four of book four (started with Ab ul Diz 1910, see Equinox vol. iv no. ii)

['real start' of world war II (according to wikipedia) is 1937, Japan
invades China: Sino-Japanese War: Battle of Lugou Bridge - Japanese
forces invade China] source: wikipedia

An. Ixi Sol in Capricorn
December 1937- another private issue by the O.T.O.

London March 1938
and a subsequent subscriber's edition

March 1938 London
Liber Legis: first non-private book/volume dedicated to Liber AL alone

March 1938 Pasadena, CA
in the interim, the title has changed a bit, but remains largely the same:
added punctuation for clarity, a graph or two, pen marks, coffee stain,
and little else that i can tell, but its a long way from here to there

approved by Author after publication
ed. Wilfred Talbot Smith

[Sept. 1939 official start of world war II)


   > in my humble opinion, the design does the text justice: i am putting my
   > 17$ where me mouth is, twice at least
   >
   > re: the contents and organization of texts: i liked the fact that the
   > /introduction/  [thee five part manifesto declaration] is included 
along
   > with (written1925 Tunis) /the introductory note to al/
   >
   > 10. fine attention to detail all around, haven't noticed any obvious
   > goofs (such as printer gremlin variety) yet
   >
   > 11. all this and a nice photographic reprint of the painted wooden stel
   > of ankh af na khonsu (fl. ca. 26th dynasty)? for seventeen measlie
   > bucks? the symbolic gesture of /buying/ this strange volume (let alone
   > owning or buring a copy) iz worth at least this much
   >
   > love under will,
   > DST
   >
   > 93
   > 93/93
   >
   >
   >


418,
DST