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To: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan.magick From: papajohn@vnet.net (John E."Papa John" Mayer) Subject: Re: (O) Crowley's QBL, Sources, and Magical History (was Gematria...) (fwd) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:36:03 GMT In articlesqueegee@yr.3rd.aye.beeATCH (G Leake) writes: >channel to Yahweh--I have little doubt Crowley viewed QBL quite >differently in this regard, in fact his perception of The Universe >involves a pantheon of Gods, not a single angry male god. This is close, but allow me to remind you that AC wrote (Magick w/o Tears?) that only those who have passed the Abyss can truly be considered monotheists, and that we poor fools on the south side of it must, for practical purposes, remain polytheists. >Never let your mind wander from the fact that your Qabalah is not my Qabalah; a good many of the things which I have noted may be useful to you, but you must construct your own system so that it is a living weapon in your hand. >-Aleister Crowley, _Magick Without Tears; Letter # F, 8/23/43_ Oh yes, great quote! Will Love, Papa John John E."Papa John" Mayer Magick*Musick*Mayhem papajohn@vnet.net chiron1@ix.netcom.com If it don't hurt a little bit, it ain't rock & roll! Path: ultra.sonic.net!jupiter.dnai.com!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news21.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3695B024.132F@sympatico.ca> From: richard sprigg Reply-To: kteis@sympatico.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan.magick Subject: Re: (O) Crowley's QBL, Sources, and Magical History (was Gematria...) (fwd) References: <199901051938.LAA29610@bolt.sonic.net> <3692A871.645B@luckymojo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 02:13:40 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.172.206.37 X-Trace: news21.bellglobal.com 915779036 206.172.206.37 (Fri, 08 Jan 1999 02:03:56 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 02:03:56 EDT Organization: Bell Solutions Xref: ultra.sonic.net alt.magick:131012 alt.magick.tyagi:15139 alt.pagan.magick:13259 G Leake wrote: originally the sephira were a > channel to Yahweh--I have little doubt Crowley viewed QBL quite > differently in this regard, in fact his perception of The Universe > involves a pantheon of Gods, not a single angry male god. Yet he also notes, in several places, that all gods are symbols, and cautions the student not to confuse symbol and substance. remember that the perfect and the perfect are none. "I am a god of war and vengeance" Jewish Kabbalah is a system: it includes methodology, symbology and much, much, more. Hermetic Kabbalah is really just the bare bones of the symbology with a bunch of other attributions tacked on.
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