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To: alt.christnet,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan,alt.religion.asatru,alt.satanism,alt.thelema,talk.religion.misc,alt.mythology,alt.religion.wicca,alt.magick.virtual-adepts,alt.folklore,alt.folklore.urban From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (Lorax of the Evul Wikkunz) Subject: Why 'Witch'? (Was Re: Hail Satan, Ruler of this World!) Date: 15 Feb 1996 14:40:54 -0800 kaliyuga 49960215 merrily met, kin; followup restructure jasonp@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason Posey) exchanges swipes with idiots and then writes: |you don't know a damned thing about Satanism. Bigot. Kindly tell us what you think that Satanism is, then. |Wiccans get a bad name because they worship the Devil, even though they |will steadfastly scream and shout that it ISN'T THE DEVIL!!!! This is rather convoluted. Christians accuse others of 'worshipping devils' or 'worshipping the Devil' as if everyone (or at least the State) should pay attention to their delusions/paradigm. The problem isn't the 'bad name' among the deluded, the problem is the social repercussions which may arise as a result of this type of religious bigotry and myopic evil (I'm talking about the myopic evil of the Christians; the rest are surely not devoid of their own myopias, as are we all). |They get a bad name because they call themselves "witches," and witches |are evil. Why do you insist on calling yourselves witches, when you do |not wish to be seen as evil? This is the first question of a 'Witch FAQ', and I shall begin such a file on behalf of The Order of K@s Under Satan. Consider this the preliminary introduction file to that FAQ: 01 Why do you use the term 'Witch' to label yourselves? Doesn't that convey an implication of evil, or sociopathy? The term 'evil' has absolute meaning only in the minds of moralists (excepting those who equate the term with some form of consensual social legal system (e.g. 'bad' = 'illegal'). The Great Martyrdom Cult (GMC) (of which Witches are part, with Satanists and others) prefers to take up the adversarial social position with respect to most religious moralism. Typically this does not involve illegal or even truly taboo activities except in the preliminary stage of a cult's development (when the psychic contents of the shadow may be engaged by challenges to social custom and even biophysical response in taboo-breaking rites), though some perverse individuals benefit from it all through their religious path. Therefore you are using the term 'evil' in a way with which few Satanists or even the greater Neopagan community would agree (when they used it at all, which is uncommon). The question you ask has merit, however, in that you ask about the dynamics of nomenclature and its value when this includes antagonistic implications ('Satanist' or 'Witch', for examples). There are many possible responses to this question, and it is a complex religious and sometimes theo/alogical knot that takes a bit of background study in several religious traditions to understand many of them. The most popular within the Temple at present appears to be the notion that the association of the ENEMY with the SHADOW is almost universal. The shadow is that which is repressed. The enemy is that which is destroyed or eshewed (in either case of a society or an individual). To prepare the delicate working of socio-psycho-analysis, one first isolates the repressed contents of the social psyche. This may require several years of study or an intuitive approach which leads to concentric social and personal shadows. It is far easier to surf the social network of occultists and taboo-challenging underground beneath the umbrella of an accepted social tradition. This is why counter-cultural organizations begin: as protection for or deliverance of the minority social value/vision/doctrine/etc. Due to such things as fairy tales, films and games (i.e. media) a host of psychic content concerning wrathful, evil or what is called 'Satanic' mythos and folklore has been proliferated throughout society. From here the relation betwixt the Witch and her title will be personal and perhaps geographical or due merely to a pleasant jest of Eris. It has likely been the various Christian-Islamic fears of their nightmares and history which has stirred and fertilized young minds in the direction of 'witchcraft' or 'sorcery' (along with the general oppression which appears to accompany all human social bodies). Biblical tradition tends to condemn it variously as 'the workings of, for or by minions of the Devil', 'playing with (potentially dangerous) spirits', or 'dabbling in the occult', the last of which categorizes nicely the entirety of repressed social tradition (as 'occult' relates to the 'hidden'). From these backgrounds came most of the early Neopagans and Witches, and many likely held onto a great deal of Christian terminology, even calling upon archangels, God, YHVH, or the Devil, Lucifer, the Goat, Satan, etc. in their religious or magical rituals or emotional turmoil. The term 'witch' is popularly associated with the fairy tale hag, astride a broom, wearing a black hat and sporting a crooked and wizened face, her black cat riding hehind her as she kicks up her boots to the clouds. Often she has brewed forth a potion or fruit or flower that contains the transformative, sometimes death-dealing magic. Normally she is portrayed in Grimm's and perhaps other fairy or folktales (Disney, perhaps Anderson, etc.) as malevolent, or at least an agent of death or destruction. She is what many Neopagans call 'the Crone', and it is the visage and character of the Crone which both Wiccans and Witches choose as their social umbrella-banner. The Old Woman is a largely forgotten and denigrated social media figure. Western religious history almost completely ignores her (except in obscure Biblical and Qur'anic text), and, at least in American society, family and government support programs for the aged (let alone the female aged, who constitute a special class) are ever-dwindling (this last may be somewhat inaccurate depending on what senior and women's political orgs have been able to accomplish lately). Films, television, books and magazines fare slightly better with the Old Woman, but typically cast the Witch as a bitter and demonic villain in the Grimm and Disney style. These latter media forums are responsible for the common conceptions of the 'witch=evil old potion-/magic-using woman' which are so very important to the study and worship of wrathful gods. Raised to believe from church and home-life that witches were poisoners or evil people (often women) in league with the Devil, the Great Travesty was later revealed by 'Wiccans' (and, in some cases by Witches too) as an almost Jewish-sounding martyrdom complex including a continued and consecutive force of oppression from the Church, stretching from 'the Inquisition' (in which the more radical witches and Satanists claim 9 million -- sometimes all women! -- people died) to the present 'mischaracterization of preChristian religious tradition'. Many of those who participate in nominally Witch-related rites or Wiccan religious ceremonies today may not have come to the Craft with this type of background, but my speculation is that most did. Given this, it is understandably psycho-spiritually transformative to adopt the identification of the martyred cause, regardless of the actual historical foundation or adopted metaphysics, and this transformation is even symbolized by the mythotype in question: the witch. It is the same with the Knights Templar and other antagonistic or heretical organizations within Muslim and Christian culture (e.g. the Hasheeshin and the Cathars). They function as release valves for the society, and, protected from the social consciousness (an action which is becoming increasingly difficult on a wider and wider global scale), can lead to the establishment of a splinter religious group of resolved stamina. If too potent for the greater social fabric to handle, then this could lead to social unrest in those who hear about who have been seeded conservative doctrines that speak of their 'evils'. It is in some ways a propaganda compaign and for this reason I would again recommend books about the shadow of society, the imaginings and intentional manipulations of the visage of the Adversary (the literal meaning of 'shaitan/satan'). Some might compare the personal spirituality and social psycho- analysis of which witches are a part to be a kind of judo throw (I am not that familiar with judo, though I've seen a few demonstrations), disorienting and rendering a social psyche more stability as it reifies the contents of its shadow until that identification no longer carries the repressed potency. tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com Lorax of the Evul Wikkunz ------------------------- "Is he evil?"... "I don't think so. But his motives have always been obscure. No one has ever, as far as I know, been able to tell what he would do or why. He is, as I said, more powerful than any mage now living, including myself. But his mind is like a murky and bottomless well, into which all the wisdom of the ages and all the accumulated trivia of several universes have been indiscriminately dumped. He is both wise and innocent, incredibly devious and hopelessly scatterbrained, and by this time, I fear, quite mad." Salteris Solaris Archmage (Hambly, _The Silent Tower_) -- To ensure my response CC all public replies to email (READ alt.magick.tyagi) (emailed replies may be posted) * http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi/nagasiva.html INTENTIONAL .SIG PROTEST: FUCK SHIT PISS COCKSUCKER MOTHERFUCKER TITS CUNT
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