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Views on Satanism: Neopagan

To: alt.satanism,alt.pagan,talk.religion.misc
From: (peter li'ir key)
Subject: Re: Views on Satanism: Neopagan (LONG Co
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 23:13:00 GMT

me 194  wrote:
m4>  peter li'ir key ( wrote:
plk> sheri ellis  wrote:

se> If [Tyagi] wants to count
se> himself among Pagans, all he really has to do is abide by our law:
se> An' it harm none, do as ye will. And the Threefold law of Karma:
se> everything you do comes back to you threefold. That's all any Pagan
se> is bound to believe. But my experience with Satanists (which I admit
se> is not all-inclusive, just a sample representation) is that they
se> have no ethics. Any response?

[some deletia]

plk> i have some slight problem when morality is legislated in a dogmatic
plk> fashion.  the rede is a compassionate statement, but must be
plk> tempered with a little thought about 'harm'.  the threefold law
plk> 'that's all any pagan is bound to believe.'  perhaps that is what
plk> _you_ are bound to believe, but i'd rather think not all pagans
plk> need to believe as _you_ believe.  i think modern taoists,
plk> tibetan buddhists, hindus, asatru, shinto, and numberous other
plk> groups generally qualify as pagans.  perhaps, not your types of
plk> pagans, but pagans none the less.

m4>    That's a very broad definition for pagan.  I understand that pagan is a
m4> category for a general lifestyle specificpe during the past
m4> thousand years or so, where neopagans are the modern version thereof.
m4> Vedantists and buddhists aspire to a pre-pagan `mythology'.

there is a problem with the usage of the word "pagan."

people use it to mean:

1)  non-judaic/christian/islamic traditions.  which would
    include buddhism, shinto, shamanism, taoism, asatru,
    and others.

2)  non-judaic/christian/islamic _western_ traditions.
    which sould exclude buddhism, shinto, taoism, and
    several other eastern religions.

3)  us, but not you.

the first definition is the one i usually use and is the one my
webster's dictionary agrees with.

the second definition is fairly common, but tainted with a eurocentric

the third definition is admittedly tongue in cheek, but this is a common
practice.  it's used to exclude groups of people who one group does not
like.  and it is a most pernicious usage.

peter li'ir key

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