a cache of usenet and other text files pertaining
to occult, mystical, and spiritual subjects.


Satanic vs. Promethean

To: alt.magick.tyagi
From: (mordred)
Subject: Re: Satanic vs. Promethean (was: 'Reclaiming' Sata
Date: 11 Jan 1995 09:15:35 GMT

[from alt.satanism:]  wrote
(in response to Tim Maroney):
 > I have not been able to swallow the idea that Satanism was
 > worth redeeming. 
 > The difficulty (as I see it) is that the idea of Satan is
 > primarily one of opposition to the status-quo; it is an archetype
 > of rebellion, of individuality, of the one against the many.
 > Rebellion does not have to imply a positive agenda - we see this
 > in politics, where a political party can oppose quite effectively
 > without a programme of its own.  The conventional archetype of
 > Satan *does* have a positive agenda in the form of corrupting the
 > human race, and encouraging us to commit sins such as lying,
 > cheating, violence, murder, hate, and so on, but you and others
 > have been careful to dissociate your definition of Satanism from
 > the popular archetype, and you emphatically do not endorse these
 > activities. The result is that you have a "deity" or archetype
 > which is *against* but not *for*, and there are many people to
 > whom that description applies - generally people who know what
 > they don't like, but have still to form a positive conception
 > about their own lives. It does not surprise me that your
 > (previously) fellow Satanists include a large percentage of new
 > wine and half-baked cakes.
Yes, you've pointed out an inherent problem with those forms of
Satanism that revolve around the rebellion theme.
My own form of Satanism does not revolve around the myth of the
angelic rebellion, but around my _experience_ of a Dark Force, to
which the myth of Satan as "Lord of This World" seems more relevant
than the myth of Satan as rebel.  Also relevant is the idea of Satan
as Muse, as portrayed in 19th century literary Satanism (and
ironically in fundamentalist propaganda as well; hard-core
Christians have traditionally seen Satan as the inspirer of new
forms of art, music, and science).  More about this in some
forthcoming long messages to Michael Aquino and Tim Maroney.
Why do I find the figure of Satan worthwhile?  Because "Satan" is
the name that our culture gives to the Dark Force; and I consider
myself to be on much more solid ground re-interpreting a myth from
our own culture (with which I'm already familiar) than re-
interpreting a deity from another culture (which would require years
of study for me to really understand).
 > [As another aside, some of the classical arguments *for
 > monotheism and *against historical Mediterranean paganism are
 > interesting and have something in common with your sentiments
 > above]
I have often wondered whether, in fact, there _WERE_ any
philosophical arguments in favor of monotheism and against
polytheism.  Can you recommend any books that contain these
classical arguments?
Diane Vera

The Arcane Archive is copyright by the authors cited.
Send comments to the Arcane Archivist:

Did you like what you read here? Find it useful?
Then please click on the Paypal Secure Server logo and make a small
donation to the site maintainer for the creation and upkeep of this site.

The ARCANE ARCHIVE is a large domain,
organized into a number of sub-directories,
each dealing with a different branch of
religion, mysticism, occultism, or esoteric knowledge.
Here are the major ARCANE ARCHIVE directories you can visit:
interdisciplinary: geometry, natural proportion, ratio, archaeoastronomy
mysticism: enlightenment, self-realization, trance, meditation, consciousness
occultism: divination, hermeticism, amulets, sigils, magick, witchcraft, spells
religion: buddhism, christianity, hinduism, islam, judaism, taoism, wicca, voodoo
societies and fraternal orders: freemasonry, golden dawn, rosicrucians, etc.


There are thousands of web pages at the ARCANE ARCHIVE. You can use ATOMZ.COM
to search for a single word (like witchcraft, hoodoo, pagan, or magic) or an
exact phrase (like Kwan Yin, golden ratio, or book of shadows):

Search For:
Match:  Any word All words Exact phrase


Southern Spirits: 19th and 20th century accounts of hoodoo, including slave narratives & interviews
Hoodoo in Theory and Practice by cat yronwode: an introduction to African-American rootwork
Lucky W Amulet Archive by cat yronwode: an online museum of worldwide talismans and charms
Sacred Sex: essays and articles on tantra yoga, neo-tantra, karezza, sex magic, and sex worship
Sacred Landscape: essays and articles on archaeoastronomy, sacred architecture, and sacred geometry
Lucky Mojo Forum: practitioners answer queries on conjure; sponsored by the Lucky Mojo Curio Co.
Herb Magic: illustrated descriptions of magic herbs with free spells, recipes, and an ordering option
Association of Independent Readers and Rootworkers: ethical diviners and hoodoo spell-casters
Freemasonry for Women by cat yronwode: a history of mixed-gender Freemasonic lodges
Missionary Independent Spiritual Church: spirit-led, inter-faith, the Smallest Church in the World
Satan Service Org: an archive presenting the theory, practice, and history of Satanism and Satanists
Gospel of Satan: the story of Jesus and the angels, from the perspective of the God of this World
Lucky Mojo Usenet FAQ Archive: FAQs and REFs for occult and magical usenet newsgroups
Candles and Curios: essays and articles on traditional African American conjure and folk magic
Aleister Crowley Text Archive: a multitude of texts by an early 20th century ceremonial occultist
Spiritual Spells: lessons in folk magic and spell casting from an eclectic Wiccan perspective
The Mystic Tea Room: divination by reading tea-leaves, with a museum of antique fortune telling cups
Yronwode Institution for the Preservation and Popularization of Indigenous Ethnomagicology
Yronwode Home: personal pages of catherine yronwode and nagasiva yronwode, magical archivists
Lucky Mojo Magic Spells Archives: love spells, money spells, luck spells, protection spells, etc.
      Free Love Spell Archive: love spells, attraction spells, sex magick, romance spells, and lust spells
      Free Money Spell Archive: money spells, prosperity spells, and wealth spells for job and business
      Free Protection Spell Archive: protection spells against witchcraft, jinxes, hexes, and the evil eye
      Free Gambling Luck Spell Archive: lucky gambling spells for the lottery, casinos, and races