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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan,alt.satanism,talk.religion.misc From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nocTifer) Subject: Controversial Religion and Public Review Date: 11 Apr 1997 00:21:51 -0700 49961211 AA1 Hail Satan! NULatix! re: the relationship between religion, fringe and crime for some, behaviors considered 'crimes' may in part become necessary and/or imperative in the fulfillment of one's religious path. a good example of this is the Jewish Forest Rabbis who right now out protesting in the Headwaters for old growth forests, getting arrested for committing 'crimes' (trespassing, etc.). there is an important area of conflict between religion and state, and just because we don't want anyone whitewashing any particular (usually minority) religion *as* crime (something which is often done by the establishment in regards to Witchcraft and Satanism on account of its ties to Urban Legends), I don't think this is reason to go overboard in the other direction. part of the problem is that in some measure what arises within the neuvo-religious is *affected by the libels*. it can be reasonably asserted, for example, that to some degree there are riteforms and terminology which have become meaningful BECAUSE of the condemnatory charge associated with them by fundamentalist, often projecting and accusatory religious, be they Christian or Muslim or whatever. for this reason the libels should be plainly stated and the approximations, where they can be discerned, should be elaborated as is currently known, not placing absolute limitations on what the various religious could or will do in this regard, but making it quite plain what is typically practiced by adherents where known. a good example here is a report by Doreen Valiente within one of her publications (_ABC of Witchcraft_). in it, she describes a group of Satanists (I have no reason to think that they are other than her ascription) who engage a kind of mock-human-sacrifice, including the effigy (a doll) of woman or girl, complete with theatrical blood/ketchup/intestines/etc. not only is it important that this type of activity be known to all of us (on account of its controversy), but that it may be in some measure THERAPEUTIC TO THOSE WHO ENGAGE IT. I'd suggest that the resemblance to urban legends of riteforms may promote a kind of deprogramming and yet hefty catalyzing element within the confines of otherwise conservative and (in essence) tame religious association. aspects of this can be seen within the sadomasochistic community, wherein certain community standards are often maintained but glorious, dangerous fantasies are to some extent encouraged and/or explored. the main point, then, is that police officers should be made aware of these types of experiments and practices in a manner which is neither alarmist nor unduly prejudiced against these individuals. this has served communities such as that of sadomasochistic, bondage and discipline, as well as that of the witchcraft and other cultures which contained socially-sensitive behaviors or ideologies and those which in some measure approximated Urban Legends and libels. blessed beast! tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com nocTifer -- see http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi/nagasiva.html and call: 408/2-666-SLUG!!! ---- (emailed replies may be posted) ---- CC public replies to author ---- * * * Asphalta Cementia Metallica Polymera Coyote La Cucaracha Humana * * *
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