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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.religion.wicca,alt.witchcraft,alt.traditional.witchcraft,alt.religion.gnostic.orders,alt.pagan.magick From: catherine yronwodeSubject: Re: Kraig and the 3-Fold Law of Wicca Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:03:43 GMT lorax666 wrote: > > 50000815 Vom > > a correspondent wrote: > > I'm just wondering exactly what you people think of this (its > > a quote from the book): > > > > If you have caused evil, if you have been a source of > > spiritual darkness, it will surely return to you. In > > many Wiccan traditions, it is believed that what you > > do will return to you three fold. Those doing Black > > Magick always have a heavy price to pay.......Just > > as there is a law of gravity, there is an inviolable > > law of what is called in the East, Karma, and by > > Kabalists 'Tikune'. Put out good and you will receive > > good. Put out evil, even unintentionally, and evil is > > what you get. Such is the law" > > this is par for the course of many Hermetic magicians, and is > a little on the light side for Crowleyans. it reads like someone > who has more regard for Rosicrucians and Theosophists or New > Agers than Wiccans (because he encapsulates his moralism in the > guise of 'karma' rather than 'The Three-Fold Law' (of Wicca)). > > > > What are your opinions & experiences on this subject > > [of the 3-Fold Law of Wicca]? > > my opinion is that there is no causal mechanism of which > I am aware that oversees a moralistic repercussion to > what human beings do. if there was, then our species > would, long ago, have been dealt with very harshly in > response to the exploitation and species-decimation we > are extending to the terran biosphere. > > my opinion is that the Three-Fold Law of Wicca can be > seen as an esoteric instruction concerning the activity > of coercion and it can be used to persuade those whose > doctrine integrates it to cease whatever you can convince > them is immoral (i.e. it becomes a leverage for > manipulating them). > > you can find out more about what I think about Wicca and > its history and doctrines within the following file: > > http://www.luckymojo.com/avidyana/eldar/liberwicca.tn > > > lorax666 I just ran across something interesting that had a vivid bearing on this question. It was from an interview in a book called "Company of Prophets: African-American Psychics, Visionaries, and Healers" by Joyce Elaine Noll. One of the people interviewed was a gifted psychic and spiritualist who cared for foster childen. When asked to give an example of her divinatory powers and the role of spirit guidance in her life, she gave the following example: She had some doubts early on about caring for handicapped children, so she resorted to a form of divination called Bibliomancy, wherein one opens a large book at random (usually the Bible or a Holy book of some sort) and reads whatever is found there as a sign or message. She asked about caring for handicapped children and opened the Bible randomly -- to the passage in which Jesus and Peter are discussing a blind person and Peter asks whose fault it was that he was blind, that is, whose sin brought it about, the mother's or father's -- and Jesus says that it was not a matter of what we would now call karma at all, but rather God's specific will that this person be born blind. That really struck me as the essence of what distinguishes Western theology from Eastern. In the West -- by which i mean the folk-religions of all of Europe and the Middle East as well as the specific Semitic teachings that that gave rise to Judeo-Islamic-Chistianism -- the idea of karma and of transgenerational suffering caused by parental sin largely does not exist. God's will is seen as a force, to be sure, and Christians, at least, believe that you will have to stand judgement after death, but there is no Cosmic Accounting Firm in the Sky keeping track of how you're doing on a day-by-day basis and and meting out punishment in this or any future lifetime. In India, on the other hand, belief in reincarnation and karma is the justification for an oppressive system of caste-division and blame-the-victim heartlessness that leaves handicapped children with no help at all. The idea is that if something's wrong, *it's THEIR fault* because they must have done something bad in a pst life. That is so dismissive and disrespectful of human suffering that i cannot begin to tell you of my antipathy toward it! Why Wicca, which purports to spring from ancient *European* sources contains the obviously imported *Indian* notion of karma -- and even goes so far as to multiply it by *THREE* -- is something that i cannot understand, except insofar as the founder of Wicca, Gerald Gardner, was influenced by an assortment of neo-Hindu claptrap promiulgated by the usual half-baked British Theosophists and their fellow-travellers, such as Aleister Crowley. That Kraig believes in such Theosophically-transmitted pseudo-Hinduism is probably the result of his seeing, as Aleister Crowley did before him, a guidepost casting a long shadow from East to West. Frankly, if i wanted to live in a grossly impoverished, heartlessly cruel, caste-divided society like that of India, i'd go whole hog and just become an guru-worshipping yuppie. Karma -- feh. Three-fold "law" -- yick. Let's take full personal responsibility for our own actions here and now out of an *ethical* imperative, not because we believe that some Big Cosmic Accountacy Firm in the Sky is totalling our plusses and minusses and is going to poke our eyes out in a future lifetime if we don't do right today. cat yronwode The Mage's Guide to the Internet ------ http://www.luckymojo.com/magi No personal e-mail, please; just catch me in usenet; i read it daily. Lucky Mojo Curio Co. http://www.luckymojo.com/luckymojocatalogue.html Send e-mail with your street address to catalogue@luckymojo.com and receive our free 32 page catalogue of hoodoo supplies and amulets
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