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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.religion.wicca,alt.wicca,alt.pagan,alt.religion.wicca,alt.religon.pagan From: lorax666Subject: Warlocking?? Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 18:47:29 GMT 50030301 VII on "warlock" and the novel "warlocking" ========================================= this is an occasionally interesting topic, especially where it overlaps with Asatru and Discordian folx. since I haven't heard the term used this way before, I figured I'd bring it up again and see if there are novel implementations in other quarters. a stuck troll, "Insomniac" squeals: >> What you and your wife did is inexcusable. ...you had no >> ethics, honour, or respect when you decided to "out" a large >> group of people trolls, using internet-accessible info. >> most of which had no idea who you were before this point. uh-oh. you just gotta look around kiddo. ;> >> If you were local, you'd be warlocked .... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ now of course I've heard of 'cowans' (from masonry) used in Wiccan and other Neopagan displacement, and I've heard all the hub-bub about "warlocks" being "oath-breakers", deriving from some kind of old etymology and condemnation (hey, look into the history of 'magic' and 'pagan' sometime ;>), but I don't recall before hearing about the verb: to warlock which apparently means "to black ball" or "ostracize, excommunicate from one's social niceties, etc.". is this relatively new? and is there still a faction around which enjoys wearing Warlock Badges in the same way 'Witch' was worn in the Day? I saw a derivation of 'warlock' once which was quite positive, and etymological to boot! (so many Neopagans like to consult books for things ;>). so what other usage for "warlock" are there? is it being bandied about in your town like 'heretic' and 'witch' and 'Bad Guy'?? part of the Witch Wars? Joseph : > as a dictionary definition of "warlock" is "traitor".... naw, the DEFINITION in lots of dictionaries is 'male witch', which I think is funny. yeah, the etymology has oath-breaker from the Old English (~liar). the best synonym I can see for it in dictionaries today is "sorcerer", which has a long history of being a Bad Guy. both of them seem to get to wear Black Hats, but the term 'warlock' is REALLY HOT amongst Neopagans (particularly Wiccans that I've known what didn't watch 'Bewitched' -- hey I used to live with witches named Samantha and Tabitha!). the Great Martyrdom Cult recycles these terms of condemnation and re-uses them as witness-stands (thereby supporting their connection with the Burning Times). this seems to have filtered into the Satanist community too, where some of them have taken up 'Sorcerer' and made whole illiterate Guilds of Sorcery we can laugh at for their fatuous ignorance. I do have a soft spot in my heart for 'em, tho. I mean, at least somebody is taking the charge out of the dogmatic label-making and dissolving the idiotic blanketing with a good new Reclaiming Trad. so I sent their introductory materials back edited and asked for a free membership for my work. :> they never replied. too bad, I would have really liked to become a member too. > ...For the above can be construed by even the witless > as an inappropriate "threat" by you, which will be > forwarded to the organization www.haltabuse.org for > a second opinion. LOL thanks. blessed be!! lorax666
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