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To: alt.pagan,soc.religion.paganism From: cea20@cus.cam.ac.uk (Carl Edlund Anderson) Subject: Re: Saturday, Loki, Tueton's and Jupiter Columns Date: 14 Nov 1996 11:16:19 -0600 In article, Darrell Manrique wrote: > On 10 Nov 1996, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > The difficulties of sorting out which goddess may or not be the same as > > or very similar to which other goddess is complex. However, Friday was > > certainly considered Frigg's day, considering that the original Old Norse > > was _frjádagr_, from an earlier _fríggjardagr_. > > > > No day names directly associated with Freyr or Freyja. > > Not so -- the Oxford English Dictionary gives _freyjudagr_ as an alternate > Old Norse name for Friday, and points out that this is actually a more > exact translation of _dies Veneris_ ("day of Venus" in Latin). You're right--I stand corrected! However, the only example of its use which I've been able to find is in the _Breta sögur_ (_Breta so"gur_) which is a translation of Geoffrey of Monmouth's _Historia Regum Britaniae_. In other words, rather post-heathen. I agree that _freyjudagr_ would be a better translation of _dies Veneris_, and I suspect that this is what happened here--the Icelandic translator made a learned creation of _freyjudagr_, since by that time the standard Icelandic word for Friday would have been _föstudagr_ (_fo"studagr_), and frjádagr/fríggjardagr was being forgotten. BTW, it's worth noticing that _fríggjardagr_ was almost certainly *not* a direct Norse translation of the Latin. It was probably borrowed from German (cf. OHG _fríatag_, MLG _vrídach_) or Old English (fr > I would imagine Frigg would be a closer equivalent of Juno/Hera. Juno was > rarely used in the middle ages as a name for the planet Jupiter. > But Jupiter's day is Thursday. Wouldn't it be delightfully confusing if > we had "Frigg's day" for Thursday and "Freyja's day" for Friday? :) > > Anyway, I wanted to point out that the practice of translating the weekday > names (& the planets' names at the same time) goes back through at least > two previous translations, Greek to Latin and Egyptian to Greek. I was > wondering if anyone knows the Egyptian names? I know that Thoth was used > for Mercury (the planet), so that would be Wednesday, and Moloch was (?) > used for Mars; I think Isis/Aset was Venus. I would be very interested in > learning the rest, & also learning more about the Egyptian deities bearing > these names, if anyone has anything to share? > > Darrell > So many millions of people are getting on the Web these days . . . it's > just unbelievable . . . I mean, imagine the size of the Spider. . . .
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