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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.thelema,alt.divination From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (hara) Subject: Re: Crowleyan Gematria Masquerading as Jewish Kabbalah (was English Qaballa) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:56:35 GMT 50000612 Vom jake: >>>How God created the Universe with an alphabet that descends from an >>>older alphabet (or syllabary perhaps) is anyone's guess ;-) nagasiva: >>at least THAT is a part of the Kabbalah. ;> jake : >Yes, though not a necessary part of Qabalah. apparently it is traditional in Jewish mysticism. >See moreover the argument >that substantial parts of Kabbalah are derived from Hellenistic (not >'Greek') Gnosticism. The fact that many Gnostics were Jewish in no way >diminishes the importance of this argument. Whether Greeks or Jews or >some other race 'invented' Gematria is not yet known, but many features >of Kabbalah and Gnosticism are so related that to restrict modern >Qabalah to purely Jewish forms is untenable historically and >practically. if we were only talking about gematria then I would understand. it seems to me there is no realistic logic behind the co-option of the term 'qabalah' to describe rival religious mysticism to that which is unarguably Jewish, other than to occlude it and deceive the listener. blessed beast! hara -- mailto:nagasiva@luckymojo.com ; http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html mailto:boboroshi@satanservice.org ; http://www.satanservice.org/ emailed replies may be posted; cc replies if response desired
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