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To: thelema93-l now @egroups.com From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (nigris (333)) Subject: Da'ath and the Abyss 50000114 IVom Hail Ain Soph Aur! Hail Malkuth! Hail Kleppah! a correspondent wrote: > Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law The word of Sin is Restriction > ...is Da'ath, the theoretical Sepheroth, identical to the concept > of the Abyss? Da'ath is an anti-sphere, a vacuum into the digestive Hole which is the Darkside or Underside of the Tree (shells, kleppah). the Abyss is the appearance this anti-sphere provides to those who are insufficiently courageous to dare its depths. as an expanse of air (crevasse), water (sea), earth or fire (desert), it is projected as an OBSTACLE TO BE OVERCOME, much as is the Dweller on the Threshhold, whether Maniacal Raver Choronzon or Sky-Walker Dakini, who is sometimes said to oppose one's progress 'into the Upper Triad' in this cartograph of consciousness. > I have noticed that during the performance of the Qubalistic > Cross, Kether is formulated above the head, cooresponding to > the Sahasrara chakra and then brought down and to rest at > the pineal gland or slightly above and between the eyes. > Superficially, this appears to cooresond to Da'ath. My > assumption was that it requires Knowledge to formulate the > Qubalisic Cross and perform the banishing and/or that the > action was symbolic of the descend of Light into Darkness > or matter. Does anyone else have a take on this? Thanks. a great deal of ambiguity surrounds the subject of Da'ath, and with good reason. it transcends linguistic and logical categories, being transcendental in scope. some contend this also means its purport is post-mortem, but I think this is overly simplistic. the Hebrew and Indian metaphysical maps were formulated separately from another. in one a tree contains 'spheres' sometimes said to reside in a diversity of manifested worlds, its uppermost reaches arguably inaccessible to all but the most diligent and perfect of adepts. in another all bodies contain a system of 'disks' typically identified as having a kind of physical locality and effect, yet their harmonization and uppermost activation are similarly supposed to be beyond the level of the vulgar to effect. how these might be related is of course easily debated, and the vast expression on each will not match up with that of the other. the best which can be brought to bear on the subject would be a comparison of concept amongst those who considered them coincidentally-referential or a survey of all pertinent commentaries from each culture and those who steal from them (such as the Hermetic and the so-called 'Thelemic' which is a part of the Hermetic). the Qabalistic Cross has a few variations, the most rational of which I have seen is the one I created as a holistic alternative to the luxocentric obsessive model. the uppermost chakra or disk is not always located above the head, though this is not uncommon. neither is Kether so rigidly located, though rationally a concentration on a Lurianic model would indicate the correspondence. those such as concentric spheres or other orientations (such as my own Tetraktys) might be more difficult to coordinate with any rigidity. as others have made plain, there is some popular speculation that the sephira or sphere of Da'ath is most accurately associated with the Throat Chakra, and its relation to digestion of the infernal or recycled garbage of the Creation in Hebrew mystical cosmogenesis makes this quite attractive. whether this ought also be considered to be equivalent to or identical with the Abyss should be a discussion with a greater degree of variance. I would suggest that its typical nondual character (the contrast made, for example, between 'that which lies below the Abyss' and 'that above the Abyss', especially in the Hermetic community) makes an association with the Throat Chakra somewhat problematic due to its association with the very dualistic nature of language given manifestation in the throat, and that nonduality might more plainly point to the Third Eye or Crown Chakras. there is a great deal of room for argument here, as I have said. Invoke me under my stars. > Love is the law, love under will blessed beast! nigris (333)
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