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To: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi
From: catherine yronwode 
Subject: Re: Chassidism
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 18:00:20 GMT

Spartacus wrote:
> Catherine wrote:
>  :
> > > No, it does not. Crowley got his information on Kabbalah third 
> > > hand (via Mathers' English partial translation of von 
> > > Rosenroth's German partial translations a few selected Hebrew 
> > > texts). He failed to understand the breadth of kabbalah and he 
> > > focused almost exclusively on number-play (gematria). I would 
> > > not recommend Crowley as a source on kabbalah. The book lists 
> > > given earlier in response to your first question were far more 
> > > useful!
> What do you think about the other line of jewish mysticism,
> the so called chassidism, is there any hot stuff there?

The Chassids (Chassidim) are not so much a "line of Jewish mysticism" 
as they are a regional group of diasporic Jews who developed their own
culture in Poland. This culture includes details of costume, teaching
lineages, and folk customs that set them apart from other regional
groups of Jews, such as the Ethiopian Jews, the Sephardic (Spanish)
Jews, the Ashkenazi (central European) Jews, and the Yememite Jews.  

Of course the Chassidim number some great mystics among their group --
as any cultural group of any religion would -- but i would not call the
Chassidic take on the Kaballah "hot stuff," Lars. It is .. well, it is
the same sort of stuff you can find among other Jews who study the
Kaballah, really. 

Perhaps the fact that the Chassidim (like the German-Aerican Amish)
dress in antiquated costumes and spend a lot of their time in religious
observance gives them a certain aura of mystical "hotness" to the
outsider, but, in fact, they get married and have kids and earn their
livings just like other foks do -- which means that the amont of time
any individual Chassid can spend on purely mystical pursuits is limited
by the number of "spare" or "free" calories at the group's disposal that
can be expended on the physical support of a non-working member. 

cat (My two cents. Not the voice of "authority." ) yronwode 

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