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Path: shell.portal.com!svc.portal.com!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!satan.ots.utexas.edu!litch From: R.Michael LitchfieldNewsgroups: alt.magick Subject: RE: LSD-25 and magick Date: 11 Dec 1995 23:56:21 GMT Organization: oed Lines: 50 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4aigf5$264@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <05DEC95.23401880.0131@MUSICB.MARIST.EDU> <4acose$pjp@news.wco.com> <4af8lp$8r7@maureen.teleport.com> <4agh1d$gl0@puzzle.palace.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: satan.ots.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.3_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:02:19 GMT >In article >lint@omni.voicenet.com (Lint) writes: > I was wondering if anyone out there has done any research on the >use of LSD and the enlightenment of magick and how the two might >be connected or how one could enhance the use of the other. >Lint I tend to be much more chaotic than ceremonial in my approach to magic and find that the psychoactives play an invaluable role for me. LSD tends to have two very different and distinct effects depending upon your dosage level. Lower dosages, up to about 250 micrograms (~2.5 hits), are termed psycholytic in the literature, a word coigned to described the mind opening powers of the drug. Higher dosages, (250 and up), are termed psychadelic, which was created to describe the mind manifesting nature of the drug. The two levels are distinctly different, a person having a psycholytic experience is going to be functioning in the more or less same reality with the people around them, though things will often take on a glamour and be percieved in new ways and in new relationships. A person having a psychedelic experience in not necessarily sharing the consensus reality, thier internal universe (or perhaps inter experience of the universe) is much more powerful and effective than some external "reality". The implications of these two states on magical practice is profound. During a psycholytic experience the universe is more or less the same place it was before you dropped, thus magical action occurs in a similar manner to the way it normally would. You are however aware of many more things, a blank wall is not blank but full of the sigils of the universe in constant shifting prose waiting for you to but understand what it is whispering to you. However you experience some severe limitations, you are EASILY distracted, your memory is fractured, your intuition will leap without your rational mind being able to follow, trying to move from thought to spoken word becomes an effort of immense proportions, and all in all your focus is fucked. A psychedelic experience occurs in a universe all its own. In this new world change doesn't occur according to will, it occurs according to whim, including unconscious whim. Magic during one of these experiences tends to be more about bringing your creation back to your waking reality, and without any of the possible horrors that grow in those regions. Fortunantly not much comes back accross during these experiences, except occaisionally the memories, but those memories can be potent indeed. To truely know what it feels like to call a dream thing from the nothing around you makes it much easier to accomplish something the next time you try it in the real world. Of course there is the vague lingering question as to whether the world you return to is the world you left. -Mcihael Path: shell.portal.com!svc.portal.com!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!satan.ots.utexas.edu!litch From: R.Michael Litchfield Newsgroups: alt.magick,rec.drugs.psychedelics Subject: RE: LSD-25 and magick Date: 12 Dec 1995 00:16:02 GMT Organization: oed Lines: 49 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4aihk2$2ul@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <05DEC95.23401880.0131@MUSICB.MARIST.EDU> <4acose$pjp@news.wco.com> <4af8lp$8r7@maureen.teleport.com> <4agh1d$gl0@puzzle.palace.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: satan.ots.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.3_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:59:04 GMT In article Peter J. Lima, lima@indirect.com writes: >My first trip: "Hmm, whatthefuckisthis?" >My fifth trip: "Good God almighty this shit WORKS!" >My eighth trip: "I am God incarnate! Fuck magick -- I'll just take >more of this stuff and SAVE THE UNIVERSE!" (Problem: What do >you do the morning after the night you saved the universe?) >My eleventh trip: "Ho-hum. Same old stuff. Jeez, there's nothin' to >this lsd. Why bother, this is just like regular life. . ." > >So it goes. >You get a telegram from a Friend. . .you read the message, it helps >you (maybe saves your ass), but afterward you need to throw the >telegram away, 'cause its the same message every time you re-read >it and you've got it memorized by now. I have had the "blah same old same olds" they usually are a sign that this was used.... not incorrectly but not as well as it could be. Perhaps you are recapitulating the set and setting, maybe you are not exploring new ground, maybe you have learned all that acid can teach you now, maybe you are afraid of facing what you approached in a pervious trip. IF you wish to there are a number of techniques which can be experimented with to vary the expeerience. 1- Take more. If you normall only drop a single hit (or even two) try dropping 4-5. You may decide complacent boredom was better but at least you may learn something. 2 - Drastically change your setting. If you normally tip in your apartment in the city, drop while camping in a forrest. If you normally drop with friends, drop alone. If you usually trip at night do a day trip. If you normally try to explore the magical occult aspects focus on the light causal common events. 3 - Mix drugs. Add something new like X or NO2 or one fo the exotics. (It helps to be familier with the new drug BEFORE you mix it). 4 - Make it very ritualistic, fast for a few days befoirehand, deprive yourself of sleep, engauge in heavy S/M, push your limits in some non-pharmaceutical direction. 5 - Babysit someone through thier first trip and try to see the acid coloured world through thier eyes. >>PJL >(Petros Xristos) -Michael
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