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Wrathful Gods

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From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva)
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Subject: Re: Wrathful Gods (LONG) (was Re: Satanist/NeoPagan War)
Date: 24 Jul 1996 11:30:32 -0700
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kaliyuga
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jsidwetz@csd.uwm.edu (The Toxic Magician):
|>|>...most "thugees" (who presently live in India) in no way consider 
|>|>themselves "satanic." 

nagasiva:
|>I was told and read elsewhere that the thuggees had been wiped out
|>by the British during their oppressive tyranny of India.  yes, they
|>did make various appearances in Western media (e.g. 'Indiana Jones
|>and the Temple of Doom', Dan Simmons' _Song of Kali_, among others,
|>I'm sure), and I have at times sought to identify with them as an
|>oppressed people, even though criminal by my culture, though I've
|>never heard before that remnants of them survived.  do you have some
|>sort of documentation or reference on this, or were you using the
|>term in an off-hand way to refer to devotees of some manifestation
|>of Kali?

in private email, Nexhagus :
|A little of both actually. I believe that we can safely use the term
|"thuggee" to refer to modern devotee's of Kali. However, I have a little
|evidence to support the possibility of a larger movement within India Itself:
|
|"A revival of Thuggee in a more eficient form was rumoured following the
|partition of India and Pakistan in 1947. A number of students, relatively
|well educated, dispossessed of their property and hopes by the upheaval
|which scarred the whole of the sub-continent, banded themselves together and
|swore that they would oppose both India and Pakistan, their hand would be
|against every man, except the worshipers of the mother goddess. The movement
|started in Bengal, which has always been a home for Kali cultists. It was
|givin additional strength because that province, which had a sence of
|national unity, was devided between the two new powers. Bengalis of both
|Hindu and Moslem religions are closer in their ways of t hinking than
|members of the rival religions elsewhere. This time, it seems, Kali-worship
|is to some extent political; though while the strong ritualistic elemet
|remains, it will be a difficult thing to suppress."
|
|        Daraul "A History of Secret societies" p.190 - citidal press 1990 ed.
|
|I would like to point out that while the above piece is speculative in
|nature some things bear further investigation. The state of Bengal for one.
|I do recall hearing elsewhere that Thuggees did in fact exist but were now
|non-violent. Unfortuatly I do not recall the source, though now that the
|subject has come up for debate I am severly tempted to go digging. 
|
|Also worthy of note, Kali-worship has always had a jingoistic bent to it if
|I understand it correctly (especially for 19th century Indians under british
|rule). India for Indians - that sort of thing. Naturally this would not
|apply to non-indian devotees. 

beautiful, thanks!  and thanks for letting me post this.

tyagi

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