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From bounce@necronomi.com Fri Nov 17 13:39:59 1995 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA11305 for; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:39:57 -0800 Received: from tfs.necronomi.com (tfs.necronomi.com [199.173.32.230]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA07661 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:39:37 -0800 Received: from tfs.necronomi.com (199.173.32.230) by tfs.necronomi.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:46:22 -0500 Sender: Succubus-L@tfs.necronomi.com Errors-To: bounce@necronomi.com Reply-To: Succubus-L@tfs.necronomi.com Message-Id: <199511172133.NAA10627@jobe.shell.portal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: nagasiva X-Listserver: Macjordomo - A Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:33:41 -0800 (PST) Precedence: Bulk To: Multiple recipients of Subject: Kali, Liberation and Dominators Status: RO originally posted to Usenet: |Summary: Excerpts from a Catalog of Devotional Statues |Keywords: Kali Terror Horror Deliverance Suffering |KALI YUGA |4995th Year, 11th Month, 17th Day | |"KALI - *Goddess in the aspect of Liberator* | |"Unlike much Western mythology, Hinduism at all times has recognized the | feminine principle, most prominently in the form of consort to Siva or | Siva-Shakti. The male power, inert, is useless without this energizing | female power, conceived of in its benign form as Parvati, and in its | fierce or destructive form as Kali. In this terrifying aspect, the | goddess drips blood from her devouring mouth, and her huge sword has | beheaded the demon Ignorance, while her other two hands signify the | blessing implied by this penultimate spiritual deed. The Ancient | Goddess, in her warrior aspect of Inanna, Medusa, Athena or Morrigan | served a similar psycho-spiritual function in Western cultures." | | |"Understanding Kali | |"There are few archetypes in modern society that allow us to recognize | what Jung called our "shadow" side. In part this is a dark cthonic | force, a compendium of what Elizabeth Kubler-Ross calls the four | negative emotions of fear, anger, jealousy, and grief. | |"Kubler-Ross and other psychotherapists (especially the practitioners | of Gestalt therapy and Re-evaluation counseling) insist on our need | to ventilate, externalize, or discharge these feelings, either through | tears, rageful yelling, or symbolic destroying. Kali of the fearsome | form is the patroness of such healing. Kali emanates from the warrior | goddess Durga in times of peril, and like a bloodthirsty whirlwind | slays the demons of ignorance which conflict the human mind. In her | greatest of such archetypal battles, Lord Siva had to throw himself | at her feet to halt her. Dancing upon his body, she calmed and brought | the universe back to life, as symbolized by Siva's enigmatic smile. | |"Her dance of destruction is ultimately the destruction of evil, and | seekers who throw themselves at her feet are reborn out of pain into | vitality, spontaneity, and appreciation of the full joy and beauty | of existence. Hindus recognize that beneath her frightening | appearance is the truth that life, though fraught with suffering | and terminated in death, is ultimately rooted in joy. | |"All ancient traditions created archetypes of this wisdom. Greek | Medusa, Medieval Hecate, Yoruban Oya, Celtic Morrigan, Norse Valkyerie, | and Mayan Ixchel Crone each tell us that to realize this joy, suffering | and death must be faced. | | Only by conquering them through recognizing them as portals of rebirth, | thereby reconciling them with one's hopes and expectations, can peace | and joy be found." | | 'JBL Devotional Statues' Catalog, p. 19. | ________________________________________ | | |"JBL takes as its goal the central premise of Joseph Campbell and | Riane Eisler: as we change the societal models and cultural | archetypes that surround us, our Western hierarchic and dominator | values will soften and transform into a more sharing, partnership- | focused and eco-harmonious world view. Our unique and colorful | images, products of humankind's most ancient technology, reflect | the blending of earth, air, fire and water into symbols of the | qualities which make us most fully human: Love, Devotion, Suffering, | Joy, Aspiration. Created from Ganges clay in a variety of finishes, | each statue is different; each is truly a one-of-a-kind piece of | handcraft art. It is our hope that when you gaze upon your statues, | you will become re-attuned with your own personal process of | transformation." | | Ibid, p. 16. | ____________ | | |I'd like to hear commentary on the comparison between personal gods |and psychological archetypes. I'd also like to know if this kind of |language ("dominator values") is just a reflection of _Chalice and the |Blade_ and Eisler's subsequent works, or if Eisler got it from |somewhere else. | |Are the emotions just 'things to get through' so as to reach peace and |joy? Like lessons in a cosmic grammar school? Or are they pure and |perfect themselves? Does Kali's destruction imply the destruction of |ignorance and the 'negative emotions' to which ignorance leads, or is |it indicative of a more profound destruction, of the dividing line |between dualities such as 'positive and negative' or 'knowledge and |ignorance' that lead us to conceive the problem at the beginning? | |*Is* there such a thing as 'sin' to a Hindu? All Hindus? Is the text |here reflective of all Hindus or is it overgeneralizing and inexact? |Does it do disrespect to the gods to portray them as 'archetypal |creations of significant wisdom within a religious society'? | |Aum aum aum krim namah Kaliya! | |nagasiva |tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com |___________________________ | |PS, I am not employed by JBL nor do I receive any compensation from |JBL or its subsidiaries for my reproduction of a small part of their |catalog. If you would like to contact them directly you may do so |at: JBL Statues, P.O. Box 163, Rt. 1, Box 246, Vtoxry, VA 22932. | tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com
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