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From: tyagi mordred nagasivaSubject: Re: 'Inner Plane Contacts' To: fiatlvx@sard.mv.net (FiatLVX XMagick Listserv) Date: Kali Yuga 49950103 Wiccans/Neopagans... will more often tell you that these are the relationships with the gods... Given that 'inner plane' indicates a subjective relationship with a very important entity, I tend to think that the experience is identical, only interpreted in different ways based upon one's mythological foundation. Christians would translate the inner entities to 'Holy Spirit' or 'Jesus' based upon their mythological preferences. Ditto for those who cannot find value in the conservative Christian mythos, but in reverse. That is, they will see it in the Hermetic reincarnation paradigm, in the paradigm of the Neopagan gods, in the paradigm of trance-channelling aliens, in revelations by angels, etc. I'm fairly convinced that the experience is common within religious communities and interpreted into diffusion thereafter. I tend to think that d(a)emons and angels are the same beings, given names based on whether we like them or not (similar to the ultimately relative schema glossed over by the terms 'evil' and 'good'). ...I figure that we are all Children of the divine, no matter if demon or angel, and I will offer the love of the divine unto all comers. I have *also* seen alot of benefit from 'inner plane' contacts, had them myself, and continue to have them in the form of my relationship with my HGA/goddess. The contact is 'inner plane' in that I am the only one who experiences Her, yet the effect upon me is quite real, and I have verified to myself that I am not merely playing tricks with my own mind. Lest you think I bypass certain psychological explanations of any of this, I have not ruled out the possibility that Kali is part of me. In fact, my most favorite tantric philosophy tells of the unity of Kali and Siva. It is possible that the revelations She has shown me (largely insignificant though convincing gestalts) were the result of a deep connection with my subconscious mind. I do not decide between gods and archetypes. I just run with the experience, sometimes describe it thereafter, and move on. nagasiva, tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (NocTifer)
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