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Reply to: nagasiva Subject: CHLOW: LILITH 22 Nov 1995 07:56:58 -0800 Portal Communications (shell) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi, alt.mythology, alt.pagan, alt.satanism Reply to newsgroup(s) [from Succubus-L: Cthulhu@tfs.necronomi.com (Clifford Hartleigh Low)] >From Snake Power magazine (Vol 1, Issue 1) no longer in print > >Notes: Lillith was the first woman, made at the same time, and from the same >stuff, as Adam. So when Adam refused her equality and forced her to lie >under him, she spoke the forbidden name of God and flew from Eden. In >mythology she bacme the succubus, shown as a winged woman with taloned feet. >The stories differ, and I have selected from among them. Sanvi, Sansanvi, >Semangelaf are the angels sent by God to bring Lillith back to Adam. Couple of points I have to disagree with here: 1) Lilith was not a woman, but a hermaphrodite; as was Adam before Eve's creation. Admittedly, this is the Kabbalistic understanding of things, but Lilith is generally considered an aspect of the Kabbalah (among Jews). 2) She was made from air and fire, and Adam from earth and divine breath. Some legends indicate that she was made from sterile soil and night wind. 3) According to about half of the tellings of the story, Lilith insisted on exclusive dominance, and when this was refused she lost her temper and departed. 4) The succubus aspects of Lilith are fairly downplayed in Jewish/Hebrew culture as far as we can tell. She primarily was the smotherer of newborns, secondarily the killer of wives, and tertiarily (?) the wasting seducer of young men. This is supported by the proliferation of amulets protecting children and women from Lilith, few if any have been found to protect adult males. It is the children of Lilith who sometimes are succubi and incubi, not usually Lilith herself. 5) Depictions of Lilth on these amulets, when they appear at all, show an insect headed creature covered with hair or spines, a flipper for a tail, and a pair of tentacles for arms. It's hard to be sure, these were carved crudely onto cheap silver with a heated knife. 6) The three angels were not sent to entrap Lilith, but to inform her of God's command. -CHL +--------[ Clifford Hartleigh Low ]---------+------------------------+ | Email: cthulhu@tfs.necronomi.com | admin@necronomi.com | | cthulhu@necronomi.com | familiar@intac.com | +-------------------------------------------+------------------------+ | Finger/Talk: Cthulhu@lilith.necronomi.com | * TAINTED BUT HUNGRY * | +-------------------------------------------+------------------------+
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