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AOLimousine: Theology: A Rebuttal

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From: (Jason Posey )
Subject: Re: AOLimousine: Theology: A Rebuttal
Date: 31 Mar 1996 23:07:31 GMT

In article ,
J. Michael Phillips  wrote:
>"Charon, Lion in the path"  wrote:
>>jasonp@argon.GAS.UUG.Arizona.EDU (Jason Posey ) wrote:
>>>Given that pretty much everything in the New Testament has been shown by 
>>>scholars to have not been written by the people who are supposed to have 
>>>written them, that they contradict each other, that there is no evidence 
>>>whatsoever that any man named Jesus or Yeshua ever lived, preached, and 
>>>was crucified, one has to say yes, Christianity is based not merely on 
>>>blind faith but on conscious self-deceit.
>Ummm . . . pardon . . . I'm not sure what planet you're from, but here
>on Earth, there's a plethora of evidence . . . even Jesus' detractors
>(at least the HONEST ones) agree on that . . . 

Of course, all those who did not accept the Christians bald-faced LIES at 
face value were not being HONEST, yes?

For the record, there were plenty of people, both Greeks and, most 
importantly, Jews, who DID say that no such person had ever existed, or 
that, even if he did, he certainly did not do the things recorded in the 
nothing happened to the Temple, no one living remembered anything about 
walking on water, raising dead men, or ghosts over Galilee. If anyone 
should have known, it was the Samaritans and the Jews, and they say it 
DID NOT HAPPEN. And who *did* say it happened? A bunch of gentiles living 
long after the supposed fact and far away from the supposed places of 

What plethora of evidence, dear? If you ever bothered to read a scholarly 
study of the books of the New Testament, you'd know they weren't written 
by the people they claim to have been written by, and furthermore, were 
not written down until decades after the fact.
	There is no evidence whatsoever from Roman records that a man 
named Jesus or Yeshua ever lived and did the things claimed in the NT - 
no record of any crucixion, or any problems at the Temple such as are 
described in that lying tome. This despite the fact that they DID have 
records of REAL people who claimed to be the Messiach and were executed. 

Hr. Vad has an excellent article on this subject which he recently 
posted. Perhaps, if he is reading this, he will take the time to post it 
again, to all of the Christian newsgroups. Perhaps some of you people 
will actually read and consider what it has to say. It would certainly 
give you some reason to actually THINK in ways that are not 
pre-constructed and circular.

>J. Michael Phillips



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