|
THE
ARCANE
ARCHIVE |
a cache of usenet and other text files pertaining
to occult, mystical, and spiritual subjects.
|
TOP | RELIGION | CHRISTIANITYThelema & Jewish and Christian Anti-Gods
To: alt.pagan
From: "Kevin Jones"
Subject: Re: Thelema & Jewish and Christian Anti-Gods
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 03:50:23 -0000
"Joshua B" wrote in message
news:3262406f.0401011354.1d4d7345@posting.google.com...
> Joseph Bearwalker Wilson wrote in message
news:...
>
> > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:47:07 GMT, 333 wrote:
> >
> > >50031226 vii om Hail Satan!
> > >
> > >Joseph Bearwalker Wilson :
> > ># Pre-Christian religions don't have a "satan" concept.
> > >
> > >on the contrary, they employed the concept freely as nouns
> > >(cf. Balaam) and as officers (cf. Job).
> >
> > There are exceptions to every rule ;)
> >
> > >
> > ># They don't need one because both good and evil acts are
> > ># attributed to the same god/s. There is a balance there.
> > >
> > >for a good number of religious this is exactly true.
> > >dualists have developed anti-God agents, however, clearly.
> > >this applies within Christian *and* pre-Christian trads.
> > >for example, the Mazdaists preceded Christianity, and
> > >their 'satan concept' was Angra Mainyu/Ahriman.
> >
> > I'm not familiar with them -- but still think that the concept of a
> > being of total and absolute evil, i.e. the common "satan concept" to
> > be a rarity except in relatively modern times.
> >
> > ># ...the whole "satan" concept springs from the time when
> > ># people started to think that their god no longer had to
> > ># be appeased to keep it from doing bad things to them
> > ># because they decided that "all God is Good" and it wasn't
> > ># logical to attribute the "evil" things that happen to
> > ># the same source they attributed the "good" things that
> > ># happen. So to explain the bad things they had to name
> > ># another source.
> > >
> > >JBRussell says as much about Jews, Jehovah, and Satan.
> > >
> > >blessed beast!
> > >
> > >333
> >
> > -
> > Live in harmony,
> >
> > Joseph Bearwalker Wilson
>
> An interesting thing about Christianity that can be noted is that evil
> is _not_ originated from Satan (or Lucifer), though he is a strong
> propagator of Darkness. According to the Christian belief, Lucifer was
> created as a being of light, of music... he was the "son of the
> morning", the "Daystar", in the Old Testament, until his fall turned
> him to the Chief of Darkness (known in the Belief as Prince of
> Darkness, or Prince of the Darkness of this World). There existed Evil
> before Satan (or his creation.. if there was an angelic "creation"?)
> and apart from Satan. The Old Testament speaks of Lucifer by stating:
>
> "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how
> art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For
> thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt
> my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of
> the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the
> heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be
> brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."
Actually that passage doesn't refer to the Devil at all. It refers to a
mortal king of Babylon. Further more, the original passage has no mention of
hell - it mentions instead sheol - the place of the dead. Later passages
connect have this individual involved in mercantile trade between nations.
The whole myth of Lucifer is exactly that - a myth. It results from bad
translations, plus Origen and Tertullian developing the myth of the devil in
the second century AD. It was Tertullian who created the idea that the Devil
was originally the foremost angel before his fall - there is no Biblical
precedent for this idea. The issue has then been further compounded by
Jerome's Vulgate Bible which was the basis for the KJV, and by people
cheerfully quoting passages out of context without reading the bits that
came next.
Now if you look at the Hebrew original, those passages don't contain the
name Lucifer (which BTW is a Latin name, not a Hebrew one) and don't refer
to the Devil in any way shape or form. To compound matters, Jesus is
referred to as Moning Star (Latin: Lucifer) in several passages in the New
Testament.
Or for good measure, the original Hebrew satan was an angel - any angel
(including Gabriel) - who was sent on a mission by Yahweh to prevent a
mortal from committing a sin. The satan also acted as a sort of divine DA in
the court of God. The Hebrew term satan referred, in short, to a divine
office that could be held by any angel, and not any individual spirit.
Kevin
|
|
Did you like what you read here? Find it useful?
Then please click on the Paypal Secure Server logo and make a small
donation to the site maintainer for the creation and upkeep of this site.
|
|
|
The ARCANE ARCHIVE is a large domain,
organized into a number of sub-directories,
each dealing with a different branch of
religion, mysticism, occultism, or esoteric knowledge.
Here are the major ARCANE ARCHIVE directories you can visit:
|
interdisciplinary:
geometry, natural proportion, ratio, archaeoastronomy
mysticism:
enlightenment, self-realization, trance, meditation, consciousness
occultism:
divination, hermeticism, amulets, sigils, magick, witchcraft, spells
religion:
buddhism, christianity, hinduism, islam, judaism, taoism, wicca, voodoo
societies and fraternal orders:
freemasonry, golden dawn, rosicrucians, etc.
|
SEARCH THE ARCANE ARCHIVE
There are thousands of web pages at the ARCANE ARCHIVE. You can use ATOMZ.COM
to search for a single word (like witchcraft, hoodoo, pagan, or magic) or an
exact phrase (like Kwan Yin, golden ratio, or book of shadows):
|
OTHER ESOTERIC AND OCCULT SITES OF INTEREST
Southern
Spirits: 19th and 20th century accounts of hoodoo,
including slave narratives & interviews
Hoodoo
in Theory and Practice by cat yronwode: an
introduction to African-American rootwork
Lucky W
Amulet Archive by cat yronwode: an online museum of
worldwide talismans and charms
Sacred
Sex: essays and articles on tantra yoga, neo-tantra,
karezza, sex magic, and sex worship
Sacred
Landscape: essays and articles on archaeoastronomy,
sacred architecture, and sacred geometry
Lucky Mojo Forum:
practitioners answer queries on conjure; sponsored by the
Lucky Mojo Curio Co.
Herb Magic:
illustrated descriptions of magic herbs with free spells,
recipes, and an ordering option
Association of
Independent Readers and Rootworkers: ethical
diviners and hoodoo spell-casters
Freemasonry
for Women by cat yronwode: a history of mixed-gender
Freemasonic lodges
Missionary
Independent Spiritual Church: spirit-led, inter-faith,
the Smallest Church in the World
Satan Service
Org: an archive presenting the theory, practice, and
history of Satanism and Satanists
Gospel of
Satan: the story of Jesus and the angels, from the
perspective of the God of this World
Lucky
Mojo Usenet FAQ Archive: FAQs and REFs for occult and
magical usenet newsgroups
Candles and Curios:
essays and articles on traditional African American
conjure and folk magic
Aleister
Crowley Text Archive: a multitude of texts by an
early 20th century ceremonial occultist
Spiritual
Spells: lessons in folk magic and spell casting from
an eclectic Wiccan perspective
The Mystic
Tea Room: divination by reading tea-leaves, with
a museum of antique fortune telling cups
Yronwode
Institution for the Preservation and Popularization of Indigenous
Ethnomagicology
Yronwode Home:
personal pages of catherine yronwode and nagasiva
yronwode, magical archivists
Lucky Mojo
Magic Spells Archives: love spells, money spells,
luck spells, protection spells, etc.
Free Love
Spell Archive: love spells, attraction spells, sex
magick, romance spells, and lust spells
Free
Money Spell Archive: money spells, prosperity
spells, and wealth spells for job and business
Free
Protection Spell Archive: protection spells
against witchcraft, jinxes, hexes, and the evil eye
Free
Gambling Luck Spell Archive: lucky gambling spells
for the lottery, casinos, and races
|
