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To: soc.religion.gnosis From: aneml@orion.alaska.edu (Eric) Subject: Re: Soul or Spirit? Date: 16 Nov 1994 07:01:46 GMT Quoting: |deane@netcom.com (Dean Edwards) |In any discussion in English, as will most often be the case here in |soc.religion.gnosis, this whole concept of mind, soul and spirit |gets a bit ambiguous and cloudy. Each person uses slightly different |vocabulary and in somewhat different ways. I am curious what these |three words, mind, soul, spirit mean to readers of the gnosis newsgroup. Thanks for the invitation. I'll try to write down what I am thinking of in the back of my mind when I use these words. These are not intended as formal definitions that follow a particular discipline, only an amalgamation of what seems to work for me right now. Mind: The domain of thoughts -- whether in words, images, or abstractions. Body: My physical life processes as well as chi or life energy that brings my body to life. Feeling: Full range of emotional experience felt in my body, mind, or intution. Psyche: The form, structure or image that integrates my mind, body, and feelings. The psyche encompasses both conscious and unconsious parts. This form can be learned or self-created. Ego: The _conscious_ part of my psyche. Shadow: The unconscious part of psyche. Shadow can be projected onto other individuals, lost in the unconsious, or "misplaced" in some physical place. THe shadow is part of the psyche that we do not want or do not accept in our consicous ego. When various therapists talk of gathering up pieces of the soul, I believe they are gathering up pieces of shadow, not soul. Persona: The portion of the ego presented to the outside world. Anima or Animus: The portion of the ego or shadow presented to the inner world. If the inner person is consicous, the anima or anima is part of ego. If the inner person is not integrated into consciousness, the anima or aniums is part of shadow. Soul: The intermediary between the mundane and sacred realms. The soul creates all components of the psyche. The soul has access to the sacred realm through images, symbols, spiritual experience, and other means. The soul lives out these experiences in the mundane realm by creating psyche to imitate the sacred realm. The soul longs to touch spirit, and that longing takes form in the psyche created by soul. The soul is always within me, is never itself fractured, projected, lost, or found. I suspect that my understanding of soul is similar to those to describe it as the "deep seated spiritual essense of self." It is my experience or access to spirit. Spirit: The realm which the soul can taste but not touch, glimpse but not see, feel but now know completely. Soul longs to touch spirit always. Soul approaches the spirit in many different ways and so we each see spirit differently. The struggles and joys of the journey of the soul toward spirit are very similar though. That is why it is possible to compare notes with eachother. But the actual experience of spirit through soul is something highly unique and individual. Spirit is everywhere in everything and in everyone. At the same time it is nowhere, nothing, and no one particular person. Gnosis: Soul touching Spirit. The creative seat of being which creates my psyche directly touches and feels the spirit which the soul longs for. I am still undecided whether this is possible while I am living in the mundane realm in a physical body. I know that I feel this longing as a soul to touch spirit. But that longing does not know where or when I will find spirit. There in lies my faith; that I will find what my soul is looking for. Self: The boundary between what is me and what is not me -- what I call "I" or "me." For now, I include the psyche and the soul within the boundaries of self. I exclude the spiritual realm from self, even though the soul knows the spiritual realm. I'm really grey on this boundary, though. It is never precise. The boundary of self can shift and evaporate, allowing the soul to touch spirit more directly. Or the boundary of self can become very distinct, allowing soul to concentrate on creating pysche, ego, persona, or anima. The soul is also the creator of these ever-changing boundaries of self. The "call of soul" in my experience occurs when the soul removes its creative energy from the ego and persona and allows the boundaries of self to change to encompass more of the sacred realm. As the soul's creative energy is removed from the ego and persona, they begin to die (egocide) Taken too literally or if I identify too closely with ego, this egocide can be experienced as depression or the wish for death. However as the ego and personas die, the soul is able to explore the sacred realm. As the self comes to know more of the sacred realm, the soul is challenged to recreate a different psyche, ego, persona, and anima which better reflect the soul's experiences in the sacred realm. The disintegration of ego and the fuzzying of the boundaries of self can be terrifying and make me feel very vulnerable. Many spiritual practices seem to be ways to aleviate that terror and vulnerability by providing humans with a grounding way to remove their conventional boundaries of self, expand their conscious parts of psyche, and to recreate ego's and persona's which are more reflective of the spiritual realm. That is why I follow a regular yoga and meditation practice -- to ground myself as my soul explores, creates, destroys, and recreates the components and boundaries of self. Eric aneml@orion.alaska.edu
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