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To: alt.satanism From: Ben SchultzSubject: Re: Satanic Sex Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:59:52 -0600 I would encourage the aspiring young evangelist to read Leviticus chapter 18... This chapter contains "god's laws" on sexual behavior. I think you will find it interesting that this chapter implies that polygamy is "god's law." That women are strictly forbidden to sleep with animals, though god doesn't seem to mind if men do. That homosexuality is only a sin if it is two men. And that it is OK to sleep with your cousins despite genetic evidence to the contrary. What you are so conveniently declaring as the will of god is actually the will of church leaders. I realize that this may be a difficult distinction for you to make. It is for a lot of people. If you are interested in "god's punishments" for these crimes... I suggest chapter 20 of Leviticus. The entire book is fascinating. If you took the time to read it, you would also learn that your god does not consider an unborn fetus to be a person either... And that he finds it perfectly acceptable to sell your daughters as sex slaves. And that he thinks a woman who is rape within the limits of a city is just as guilty as her attacker because she didn't try hard enough to get help. Simply amazing what you can learn about your own religion with a third grade education and a little free time. Ben On 29 Feb 2004 18:25:37 -0800, snert_master@yahoo.com wrote: >> 1.) Is there any standard to what one could call satanic sex? > >Sex conducted in a manner contrary to God's Will/Law. > >> 2.)Is satanic sex necessarily experimental or kinky? > >About the same as any other religious sex. > >> 3.)If being your own God means ruling your own life, would it be >> unsatanic to submit to your partner, basically being their slave? > >It means doing whatever you believe gratifies self the most, >regardless of the emotional or physical damage to the partner. > >> 4.)Is anal sex satanic? > >Between two unmarried individuals, or with the same sex, or with >another species. > >> 5.)Is homosexual sex satanic or unsatanic? > >Satanic. > >> 6.)Is bisexuality satanic? > >Yes. > >> 7.)Even though the majority of Satanists are against vampirism in >> general, isn't tasting ones blood and flesh part of our animal >> instinct, thus making it satanic, even though most vampires are not >> Satanists? > >It is satanic in principle because it is unhealthy, damaging the body, >which is created in the image and likeness of the Most High God >(YHWH). > >> 8.)Is sadism or masochism satanic? > >Yes. > >> 9.)Is having multiple partners at one time the sexual lifestyle of the >> Satanist > >Yes. > >> Or is sleeping with one partner the rest of your life or long term >> considered to be the norm? > >This is God's will for us. Therefore it pleases God and the partners. > They grow in a trusting/meaningful relationship. Both benefit and >deny their carnal lusts which whould sacrifice their love for each >other to become carnally joined with someone else they lust after. >Therefore, it is NOT Satanic in principle. > >> Isn't lifelong partnering the sexual lifestyle of our Enemies? > >It is the lifestyle God prefers us to live. The One who created and >redeemed us from the penalty from sin (eternal death) and taught His >followers how to live most meaningful lives desires all married peole >to remain faithful to each other. > >> 10.)What about role-playing in the bedroom? Like women dressing as men >> and vice versa? > >It depends on your motives. > >> 11.)Isn't fulfilling ones fantasies satanic in nature? > >If these fantasies are contrary to God's Will. > >> 12.)Is masturbation satanic? > >Lust for someone other than your partner is "committing adultery in >your heart" (Matt. 5:28). When people masturbate while they are >lusting after someone other than their spouse, it is Satanic. > >> 13.)Is tantra or sex magick a part of Satanism in your opinion? > >I don't know. But from what I know of tantra is it's a way for both >partners to get the most out of sexual intercourse. If this is the >case, it is godly when life-long partners practice tantra. > >> 14.)Should hallucinogens involved in sex be welcomed or discouraged? > >Discouraged. It harms the body. > >> 15.)Is having an orgasm the most important part of satanic sex? > >Whatever gratifies self most. Of course God created people's ability >to share and orgasm with their spouse. This was meant to join the two >into a deeper relationship with each other. It is an experience that >they only share between themselves, that they might experience love >fully. Each partner realizes that they are sufficient to satisfy >their partner's sexual desires. > >> 16.)If one is celibate, is that unsatanic? > >Depends on the motive. > >> 17.)Did anyone before LaVey come up with the concept of what is or is >> not considered a form of satanic sex? > >The Setites didn't need LaVey's Satanic Bible. There were many groups >through history that devoloped their own form a Satanism. > >> 18.)Does LaVeys Satanic Witch materials work in real life? > >I don't know. > >> 19.)Is pure physical attraction satanic or should there be other >> motives like power and money? > >Whatever causes self-gratification regardless of the harm it may bring >to others. > >> 20.)Should sex magick and sexual manipulation be taught to all >> Satanists? > >N/A > >> 21.)Is rape unsatanic? > >It is only Satanic if the rapist desires it. > >> 22.)What should be done about rapists if they are Satanists? >> 23.)What should be done about child molesters if they are Satanists? > >Same punishment as if they were any other religion. > >> 24.)Is incest unsatanic? > >Now it is Satanic. > >> 25.)Is bestiality unsatanic? > >Satanic. > >> 26.)Should satanic orgs offer counseling to victims of rape, >> molestation, and incest? > >Only if they seek personal gain. Otherwise, allow groups that desire >the best lifestyle and future for the victims to handle the >counseling. > >> 27.)Is having sex while high or drunk really satanic? > >Yes. > >> 28.)Is lying to get sex really satanic? > >Yes. > >> 29.)Is sex really supposed to be part of the Black mass? > >No. There shouldn't even be a Black Mass. > >> 30.)Should sex and sex magick be used to manipulate others? > >No. > >> Regards, >> High Artist Nemo >> Co-Founder of The Reformed Church Of Satan >> (Where a sense of humor comes first!) > >So, what's your opinion on the subject? > >www.ssnet.org >www.ccel.org >www.angelfire.com/theforce/thanks_4_life/biblestudies.html www.devilzown.com -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- From: Ben Schultz Newsgroups: alt.satanism Subject: Re: Satanic Sex Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:46:55 -0600 Message-ID: <45ma401t77sgpc2muhfmagikq9aam7pcjl@4ax.com> References: <8e01b928.0402291825.5ef316e9@posting.google.com> <8e01b928.0403012014.5ec844c2@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.62.171.98 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1078289192 209.62.171.98 (2 Mar 2004 22:46:32 -0600) Lines: 113 X-Comments: This message was posted through Visit Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!HSNX.atgi.net!falcon.america.net!news-out2.nuthinbutnews.com!local!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.satanism:240915 ***Warning Biblical references within*** Leviticus 18:7-8 "Do not disgrace your father by having intercourse with your mother. Do not disgrace your father by having intercourse with any of his other wives." If polygamy was not acceptable, why would your father have other wives? Kings David and Solomon both had numerous wives and retained the favor of "god." Second Samuel 5:13 "After moving from Hebron to Jerusalem, David took more concubines and wives." First Kings 11:3 "Solomon had married 700 princesses and also had 300 concubines..." Of course "god" became angry with Solomon over his wives. Not because he married them, but because he allowed them to worship their own deities and even participated. As for the rule on bestiality, admittedly, one version of the bible I have does note man or woman. There I stand corrected. Now onto the rest of my claims. (They are not all in Leviticus, but it's your damn religion. Read the book.) >> And that he thinks a woman who is rape within the limits of a city is >> just as guilty as her attacker because she didn't try hard enough to >> get help. "If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out onto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city . . . But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die . . . For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her" (Deuteronomy 22:23-27). >> And that he finds it perfectly acceptable to sell your daughters as sex slaves. "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation, he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her. And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters. If he take him another wife: her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish" (Exodus 21:7-10). >>The entire book is fascinating. If you took the time to read it, you >> would also learn that your god does not consider an unborn fetus >> to be a person either. "If men are fighting and hurt a pregnant woman so that she loses her child, but is not injured in any other way, the one who hurt her is to be fined whatever amount the woman's husband demands, subject to the approval of the judges. But if the woman herself is injured. the punishment shall be life for life." (Exodus 21:22-23) I hope this helps... Ben On 1 Mar 2004 20:14:44 -0800, snert_master@yahoo.com wrote: >Ben Schultz wrote in message news: ... >> I would encourage the aspiring young evangelist to read Leviticus >> chapter 18... This chapter contains "god's laws" on sexual behavior. >> >> I think you will find it interesting that this chapter implies that >> polygamy is "god's law." That women are strictly forbidden to sleep >> with animals, though god doesn't seem to mind if men do. That >> homosexuality is only a sin if it is two men. And that it is OK to >> sleep with your cousins despite genetic evidence to the contrary. > >I didn't see where polygamy was encouraged. >v23 Forbids beastiality for both sexes. > >> What you are so conveniently declaring as the will of god is actually >> the will of church leaders. I realize that this may be a difficult >> distinction for you to make. It is for a lot of people. > >All stumble at times (Rom. 3:23). > >> If you are interested in "god's punishments" for these crimes... I >> suggest chapter 20 of Leviticus. The entire book is fascinating. If >> you took the time to read it, you would also learn that your god does >> not consider an unborn fetus to be a person either... And that he >> finds it perfectly acceptable to sell your daughters as sex slaves. >> And that he thinks a woman who is rape within the limits of a city is >> just as guilty as her attacker because she didn't try hard enough to >> get help. > >I did read several punishments for sex crimes in Lev 20, but I didn't >see those scenarios in this chapter. Do you have the verses? Maybe >you're thinking of another chapter or book. www.devilzown.com -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----
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