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To: alt.magick.tyagi... From: ccartwr1@Phoenix.kent.edu (Bunny and/or Roy) Subject: Re: Christian Magickal Working Date: 8 Feb 1996 16:14:47 GMT ROBERT DEPENDAHL (D1KURTZ@sisko.sbcc.cc.ca.us) wrote: : It occurs to me that Christ and the concept of magick are two : mutually exclusive concepts. You either believe in Christ (on your : knees praying for something to happen...) or you believe in : magick(channeling your mental energies into making something happen : through the use of ritual practice). I think most students of religion would not accept the sharp distinction you make between Christianity and magic. For example, the priest's process of preparing the sacred host for communion in the Roman Catholic and orthodox Christian sects has many of the elements of high magic ritual about it. Overt individual and group magical practice was quite common among some groups of early Christians, and persists in some places. Archaeologists have recovered a great many texts, amulets, talismans, sigils and other magical implements with prayers, spells and ritual formulas composed by and for Christians. Most that I know of are the result of religious syncretism, the synthesis of Christianity and some pre-extant religion. Some of the best known texts come from the early Coptic church. "Ancient Christian Magic; Coptic Texts of Ritual Power", by Martin Meyer and Richard Smith is a good recent collection of texts with interpretive, linguistic and historical commentary. Harper Collins released it in paperback a couple of years ago. Roy -- "Papa Hegel he say that all we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history. *I* know people who can't even learn from what happened this morning. Hegel must have been taking the long view." (John Brunner, "Stand on Zanzibar")
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