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From: Csanyi)
Subject: Re: LOVE
Date: 20 Dec 1996 16:24:52 GMT

In <> S & R  writes: 
>Libertarius wrote:
>> In (Matthew
>> Trevor) writes:
>> >
>> >In article <>, wrote:
>> >>One must thoroughly read and study the Bible with an open
>> >>mind and heart with no prior convictions or preconceived notions.
>> >
>> >Is this humanly possible? Even accepting for the moment that you
>> repress
>> >all of the "convictions" and "notions" that you're aware of, what
>> the
>> >subconscious?
>> >
>> >Can you prove that you yourself did not read the bible with
>> preconceived
>> >views?
>> >
>> >Matthew T.
>>     That is ridiculous. Just by learning the language you speak, you
>> acquire "preconceived notions". A friend of mine was one of the
>> translators of the Bible to Western Apache (San Carlos, Arizona).
>> Apaches are avid, wild, rodeo-loving COWBOYS. Their closes kin, the
>> Navahos they look down upon and detest for the fact that they have
>> become sheep herders. He told me about the difficulties he had with
>> trying to translate "The Lord is my Shepherd" to Western Apache.
>> HACHO-HONAI (the "Giver of Life", their word for "God" just "ain't
>> damned sheepherder. That would be the worst kind of blasphamy!
>>     So, they translated the passage: THE LORD IS MY COWBOY!
>>     The same sort of prejudices are present in ALL translations of
>> Bible, and more than that, in ALL BOOKS of the Bible, which were ALL
>> written by men who were born and raised into a cultural-linguistic
>> group and wrote their books from the point of view of their
>> and collective prejudices.
>>     Libertarius
>     Come on the lord is my cowboy...The Bible has been translated
>many "native" forms.  From Hebrew, Greek to NIV etc.  The meanings are

>still intact.  Culture has not stopped the Bible from being
>in a matter to keep its original context in place.

    You are ignoring the fact, for example, that Isaiah 7:14 was
    mistranslated by Greek-speaking Jews way back over 2000 yrs.
    ago, and used by the writer of Matthew to create the entire
    Christian doctrine-complex of "virgin birth", Mary-worship, etc...

    It was also a linguistic misunderstanding by the same writer 
    that put Jesus on the backs of TWO donkeys (Matthew 21).



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