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Lunatic Zen

To: alt.zen
From: wis@~halcyon.com (Bill)
Subject: Re: Lunatic Zen
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 06:05:20 GMT

virtualoso@NOhalcyon.com (Virtualoso) wrote:

@In article <5orkmu$4t@camel1.mindspring.com>, foot@pipeline.com wrote:

@> ardent19@idt.net wrote:
@> 
@> >Mental patient Deidu wrote:
@> 
@> >> There is a guy here who thinks he's Napoleon, one Moses, another
Jesus,
@> >> and one guy calls himself Zenmar and insists everybody here is crazy
but
@> >> him.  Btw, he also posts on the net.  That wouldn't be you, Ardent,
@> >> would it?
@> >> Michael
@> 
@> >C'mon, most of those guys are YOU! So far you're the only one who 
@> >insists he is a lunatic.
@> 
@> >Herr Doktor Ardie
@> 
@> Foot:
@> I thought most of the guys here were you Ardie.   I guess if one wants
@> to believe that many are called and few are chosen that if they have
@> many names and identities, they stand a better chance of being chosen.


@Obviously I haven't been paying good enough attention. I must check the
@mirror again.

@Perhaps dust off and polish the lunacy better, as well. After all, if
@there's company...

        "The Bodhi is not a tree,
         The clear mirror is nowhere standing,
         Fundamentally not one thing exists;
         Where then is a grain of dust to cling?"

                              - Hui-neng

"Hui-neng's response, which was consistant with the teachings of
Nagarjuna and the Madhyamika school in embracing neither absolutism
nor nihilation, avoided the trap of idealization that Shen-hsiu's
poem retained.  Hui-neng avoided the common misconception of
liberation as a mind emptied of its contents or a body separated
of its emotions.  The mind, or self, that we conceive of does not
exist in the way we imagine, said Hui-neng; if all things are
empty, to what can we cling?  If the mind itself is already empty,
why should it have to be clensed?  If the emotions are empty, why
do they have to be eliminated?"

"Even in a Buddhist community, this view challenged conventional
thinking.  The departing fifth patriarch, for example, found it
necessary to praise Shen-hsiu's answer in public, while privately
rebuking him.  Publicly denouncing Hui-neng, the patriarch
secretly named Hui-neng the sixth patriarch and then urged him
to flee under cover of darkness.  Yet, Hui-neng, in his own way.
was articulating what has always been one of the major components
of the Buddha's teaching, what has become known as right view."

              - from "Thoughts without a thinker" by Mark Epstein
               (Chpt."Nowhere standing" pp90-91, ISBN 0-465-08585-7)



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