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Hook, Line, and Stinker!

To: alt.zen,alt.philosophy.zen,talk.religion.buddhism
From: (karen)
Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Stinker!  (was: Hui Hai is enlightened)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:23:54 GMT

On Sat, 28 Jun 1997 11:19:40 +0100, helen mclellan

>>To arrive where you are, to get from where you are not
>>You must go by a way wherein there is no ecstasy.
>>        - T.S. Eliot, "Four Quartets"
>"Absolutely pure through perfected Mindfulness, Equanimity, and One-
>pointedness of mind, the Forth Dhyana is neither painful nor pleasant,
>feelings of elation and dejection having been completely surpressed
>prior to entry into it. In this Dhyana one has attained a condition of
>unmodified consciousness, which is true Samadhi (contemplation). In it
>there is no attachment whatsoever to the world or to the three lower
>stages of Dhyana the faculty of joy having ceased without a vestige. The
>Fourth Dhyana has the characteristic of experiencing what is contrary to
>both the desirable and the undesirable. Its function can be regarded as
>neutral, and its manifestation is not evident.
>           - Paranormal Phenomena in classical Buddhist Tradition.
>Karlis A.M. Tennisons and Friedrich V. Lustig.

joy is a choice
not bottom-line
not mandatory
not a goal
not a refuge
an orientation
a response
an affirmation
regardless of circumstances 
or outcome
being a beginner

The Fourth Dhyana can take a flying leap.     ;)

karen ("Given the choice of buddha nature or a dog biscuit...")

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