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To: alt.native From: aimfl@aol.com (Aimfl) Subject: Re: Non Native paticipation in Native Religions / Cultures Date: 27 Feb 1998 20:00:17 GMT > AKICITA wrote: >Fine, except that's a different topic than this one. The original post >was talking about non-Indian participation in Indian religions/cultures Actually the original post was from someone asking about racoons and Natives. Sheridan asked, rather simply I thought, why the individuals was asking Natives when they expressly stated that their belief of racoons as a totem had nothing to do with Indians at all. That individual responded by accusing Sheridan of racism etc. >It >never occurred to you, for example, that some non-Indians are >participants in genuine, sincere, and authentic ways; Actually it has occured to us, if you read our posts you would see that we have repeatedly mentioned that-unfortunatly a significant number of those who have have left and abused that privilige. >), then we sit around and complain that they don't understand what >we understand! Who has complained about that? I have heard complaints that non-natives do not respect us. Or consistently mock us through sports mascots and other stereotypes but I have yet to hear any Indian say, "gosh darn that white person doesn't fully comprehend a Yuwipi ceremony." Really I haven't. >! I think if we're going to complain that non-Indians don't >respect, understand, or live by our ethics then we have a responsibility >to give them a chance to make this adjustemnt in their lives Wiat a minute. In order for them to respect us they have to know our ways? I have never been in a Synagouge. Never been to a passover. Never worn a Yamulke(sp?). But I respect Jewish peoples and their spirituality and would never mock it. So I do not believe we have to reach out to whites and drag them into a sweat to have them understand Indian people. Respecting Indian peoples should include respecting and understanding the history of interaction between whites and Indians. It should include an appreciation that sports mascots and stereotypes are offensive and a dialouge. >We can't >bitch on and on that they exploit the earth, that they crave wealth, >that their churches are unspiritual, etc. if we also withhold what we >believe to be the correct remedies, at the same time. No and we have consistently encouraged whites to learn their traditional ways. The Creator in the Creators wisdom gave them a path as well, and its their responsibility to relearn it. Elfmaid seems to be doing it so I think, with all respect to her, that others can as well. >t's like blaming a guy for having the flu, when in fact you're the one >holding the antidote but refusing to provide it because the guy is sick >and shouldn't be using "our" medicine! So should we alter the ceremonies to accomodate them. forget the way we were taught to do them and alter them so they can. Or should we encourage them to learn the ways the Creator gave them the original instructions as developed by the Creator for their ancestors to walk and their descendants? Don Foster ALL MUST RESIST SO THAT NONE ARE LEFT BEHIND
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