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From: woody@alumni.caltech.edu (William Edward Woody)
Subject: Re: Constitutional Law was Re: "An Armed Man [sic] is a Citizen..."
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:45:54 -0800
nightsha@NOSPAMbellsouth.net wrote:
> You two also seem to have a bit of a personal argument going on, which I
> will decline from joining in on. May you both enjoy a bright and happy
> holiday, no matter which religion you follow or what you call the
> holiday season. :)
I don't know why that is. All I said was that the theoretical rights
granted to us by the Constitution are not as fixed in stone as some
would have us believe. And even the scope or interpretation of those
rights which are in fact enumerated by the Constitution evolves over
time--meaning that it's not a very far cry to imagine a near future
where religious intolerance of witches (for example) was in fact
considered by future courts as "constitutional."
Further, while theoretical rights are one thing, the practical
expression of those rights is another. In particular, the right
to one's religious beliefs, the right to protection against unreasonable
search and/or detainment, and the right to express political beliefs
unfettered by the government have all been stomped on by our government.
And in some cases (such as the treatment of native americans), lower
state and federal courts have upheld the poor treatment as legal and
constitutional. (In particular, the illegal seizure of the various
lands held by the Salinan Tribe was upheld as recently as just a few
dozen years ago in California courts--because Salinans were not
permitted to own property when the lands were seized. This seizure,
by the way, caused my grandfather to lose his home at the end of a
federal marshall's gun at the turn of this century--and many of
my relatives were actually shot during the process of running my
ancestors out of their village.)
Malachias Invictus has strongly disagreed with my above stated position,
and for some reason has devolved into calling me a "butcherer" of the
Bill of Rights.
*shrug*
If you don't know how our rights are actually maintained, and how to
fight for your rights (aside from calling for another revolution or
threatening to shoot law enforcement officials), then how can you
actually keep your rights?
- Bill
(Who, as I said before, has had family on the 'business end' of those
"protected rights" enumerated in the Bill of Rights.)
--
William Edward Woody | In Phase Consulting
woody@alumni.caltech.edu | Macintosh & Microsoft Windows
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