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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.consciousness.mysticism,talk.religion.newage,alt.fan.kali.inanna.astarte From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nocTifer) Subject: Working with Wrathful Spirits Date: 12 Jan 1998 15:26:46 -0800 49971105 aa2 Hail Satan! RE reasons to trust darkside forces: same reasons to trust human beings or other animals. some aren't trustworthy. there are various methods of discernment for this, usually arising out of the particular paradigm of the mage or shaman. the typical Hermetic noctophobe divides up the world into White Hats and Black Hats and then constructs an elaborate system of codes to validate members of hir spirit-team, never thereafter trusting the Bad Side. the more mature spirit-worker relies on interview, an intuitive sense of the spirit's relationship to the mage, and consistency of response. RE motivations for rendering service to ostensibly objective spirit entities: I would preliminarily suggest that 'objective spirits' is an oxymoron without validity (since 'spiritual' implies 'subjective' in my lexicon). beyond this, presuming what I take to be absurd (externally-existing spirit entities), the motivations for cooperating with and serving such beings are many and varied, often comparable to relationships with human beings. self-destructive motivations typically inspire unconditional service, sometimes for the purposes of allegiance to an ideal or principle. there is the typical faustian bargain seized upon by the dualist, and even those who see these beings outside the dualistic paradigm can understand the benefit of a tit-for-tat exchange when there is sufficient reason to think that the spirit will hold up its end of the bargain. haphazard bargains made with will-o-the-wisp transients are bound to prove fruitless. RE how to penetrate the deceptions of spirit entities: the traditional magical perspective on this is to 'test' them somehow by requiring response to a query which will demonstrate their adherence to symbolic standards of association: asking their name, color, glyph, region of dominion in the presumed cosmological scheme, etc. how do we penetrate the deceptions of human beings? extensive communication, verification of claims made about minor actions, consistency in the history of interaction, coherence of expression, and response to minor challenge. RE when to trust such entities: when there is little to be lost in so doing, when the entity has, over a period of time, demonstrated a reliable character, consistent demeanor, and honesty of expression. RE self-destructiveness as exemplified by 'darkside' spirit entities: self-destructiveness is a valuable characteristic, despite what creationists and luxocentric weaklings will otherwise contend. in terms of everyday life, self-destructiveness allows us to take risks and move beyond otherwise potentially paralyzing fears which have no basis to endure. it can also allow us to terminate conditions within which we find ourselves to which our instincts for self-preservation may inspire us to cling irrationally. those who have the strength to interact with wrathful spirits best do so armed with the knowledge that these beings are often misunderstood, are at least partly the result of our own repressed psychic elements, and can be prepared for through the development of a disciplined and potent will, a familiarity with basic magical or religious toolsets designed to assist interaction and self-protection, and some sense of one's objective in the enterprise. mature mystical systems recognize this and integrate symbols of wrath and repugnance into life-affirming and otherwise beneficent mythology. an example here is the renouned Padmasambhava, whose biography attributed to Yeshes Tsogyal (Tibetan Buddhism) describes his residence within a charnal ground, usage of human flesh for food, skin for clothing, and the occasional murder of apparently innocent court officials and private citizens. stories and symbols like these are understood by the experienced mystic as not only pointing to interior states of nonattachment and the transcendance of worldly norms, but also to important mystical disciplines that are too often prevented by the thanatophobic and psychically hamstringed Western religious. these barbarians typically make real spiritual maturity impossible so as to inspire an endless relationship of dependence with the recognized social authorities, insuring that their system of support remains intact. more than merely indicating our healthy self-destructive tendencies, our ability to encounter such beings demonstrates that we may be engaging what some would call a path with a 'steep grade' or 'greater potential for fast development', though this can be made less hazardous when engaged under the guidance of a master of a tradition that integrates such practices and understands the terrain. given the lack of such a master, discovery of and alliance with beneficent spirit entities are often a valuable precursor to the more advanced practices. blessed beast! ________________________________________________________________________ nocTifer: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com --- http://www.abyss.com/tokus TOKUS-COE Office: 408/2-666-SLUG --- Mother Church (CoE) coe@netcom.com -- (emailed replies may be posted); http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi; 408/2-666-SLUG join the esoteric syncretism in alt.magick.tyagi; http://www.abyss.com/tokus
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