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Is Witchcraft Satanic ?

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.satanism,alt.religion.wicca,alt.witchcraft,alt.pagan,alt.fan.harry-potter
From: lorax666 
Subject: Re: Is Witchcraft Satanic (&Potter Books Therefore Demonic!)?
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:31:15 GMT

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#># Witchcraft is not Satanic. 

note the statement without an ounce of support.
 
elendraug:
#> in certain time periods and religious perspectives it is indeed.
#> some who write for witches and [even sources] that witches 
#> recommend even talk about the satanicness of witchery (e.g. 
#> "The Satanic Witch" and the Paul Huson book I mentioned!).

Gemini :
# Just because certain religions and people of certain periods 
# *perceived* witchcraft as satanic, 

even some witches themselves.

# does not mean that they are satanic. 

part of the problem is the ambiguity of the terms. religious are 
too often willing to accept a single dimension of meaning for these
terms and broad-brush them across the whole of a topic area. this
seems to apply whether the painter is someone seeking to condemn
others someone who seeks to evade the condemnation of others.

# Witchcraft is a very old practice, predating the Judeo-Christian 
# entity of satan. 

there we agree.

# Just because someone wants to write a book about "satanic 
# practices of witches" doesn't make it true. 

overlaps are demonstrable. the instances that I pointed out above
(LaVey's incorporation of witchery into his Satanism and Huson's
"Mastering the Art of Witchcraft", recommended by Wiccans and I
might add a very well-written and entertaining book citing the
origins of witch-powers as deriving from the Fallen Angels) are
examples of these overlaps. combine this with the obvious witch
craze incidents, and you cannot deny that at least some common
ground exists between the two at least in folklore and in some
trajectories of witchcraft as it proceeds into religious form.
even such figures as Gerald Gardner focussed heavily on the
figure of Satan and the notion of Satanist Sabbats in his early
text reflecting on Pennethorne Hughes.

# Witchcraft has no connection to/nor any interest in satanism. 

my 2 examples above directly dispute this. all that you can say
in response is that you don't think 1) LaVey or his daughter
were witches (in which case you've begun a problematic attempt
to identify witches as compared with non-witches), or 2) Paul
Huson wasn't making a connection between "Fallen Angels" and
the instruction of witchcraft (in which case you're easily
demonstrated in error with a quote from the text).

# There is simply no correlation between the two.

there is a correlation in the minds of those who use witches
as condemnation-scheme place-holders for heretics and Satan
Servants. there is also a correlation between witchcraft and
those who either identify as Satanists or utilize the stories
of Christians to undergird their cosmological expression.

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