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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.pagan,talk.religion.misc From: valis@pacificnet.net (Shemhazai) Subject: Re: Types of Magick and Gods (was Re: Is all magick the same?) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 01:37:15 GMT tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) wrote: >I would not consider the various religious masses to be magical acts. >having a god do something for someone is PRAYER (unless the god is >supposed to reside within or be identical to the mage), and this is >different than a direction of (even a deity's) power to achieve >intentional ends. A channel of force is prepared which is receptive and especially suitable to the influence of the divine forces, the deific force will most often manifest in some way. This is true if the magician has made preparations within himself prior to attempting the same in outward ritual. That the magician has decided to invoke the deity's force of course means he has made an INTENTIONAL decision toward some intentional end, even if it be simple communion or illumination [which has a purpose of inner transformation]. Religious worship is quite an effective way of maintaining an egregore. If it is intentionally done with this purpose in mind it becomes a magickal act. The priest DOES act [during transubstantiation] as Christ in the Mass, as he does in confession, but those are the only two times in the Sacraments. The mage celebrating the mass resides in the Body of Christ. The Holy Spirit resides within the Mage [Priest]. This is in no way a generally heterodox idea, as it was what I was taught in 8 years of Catholic school. Of course, running through the Qabalistic model, the divine Atziluthic aspects are present in the deific [Briatic] force as well as ourselves. So the life, the very essence of the god, resides in both. The Tree as Man, etc. O you powers within me Hymn the one and the all Chant in harmony with my will All you powers within me Holy gnosis illuminated by you through you I hymn the light of thought I rejoice in the joy of the mind All you powers, chant with me
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