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Symbols and Their Success

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic,alt.lucky.w,talk.euthanasia,alt.magick.chaos
From: (Robert Scott Martin)
Subject: Re: Symbols and Their "Success" (Re: Tarot and Qabalah...)
Date: 26 Apr 2002 12:05:29 -0400

In article ,
(xtienfen, CoE)   wrote:

>nonZense, relation to symbol is no necessary determiner of 'success',

Agreed your ironic quotes. ZOS and myself are intent on forgetting, but
this is not a necessary factor, merely a facet of our particular tactical
[and aesthetic] goals.

>else the which Zaw fit to expend all manner of symbols to the cosmos
>be "done" and deemed successes. instead, substitute one's subjective
>relation to said object in a 'done' Zense and I'd agree.

Since "knowing you're done" is what's at stake here -- not some state of
absolute completion -- let's agree. It's just as easy to rewind the tape
to make the realization the main player: "[When] you know you're done,
[when] it's done with you."

>in the most covert operations of the Mighty Adepti, the exposure of the
>Formula to the vulgar is considered a massive FAILURE. 

Of course it is. "Secrecy" is "necessary in the preservation of the
Mysteries" by definition. Any time the "vulgar" become involved, an
operation ceases to be "most covert" -- and so we'd have to speculate
about something else.

Maybe those "slightly" covert operations of the Mighty, which include such
tibetan sand paintings as history.

The symbol is a curious thing in that it may be wielded to veil or reveal.
It is neither transparent nor inscrutable, neither mute [boris karloff
tongueless in giza] nor blabberous. Neither "grudging" or "generous" -- or
either, depending on the bystander.

The letter may be purloined. The "vulgar" may hear the "formula" repeated 
with every heartbeat, and not know it for itself.

[more praise of toilet training follows, followed by discussion of

>>The seducer makes no call without reply, even though reply is 
>no comprendo

The daring magician works without regard for apparent likelihood -- or
"results" -- but leaves the windows open in case the miraculous should
stop by. To live "as though" the beloved existed is to make the beloved 


>zombies, kleppa

One man's kleppa is another man's kipper.


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