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to: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.paranet,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic,sci.skeptic From: blackman99Subject: Spell For Reading Another's Thoughts Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:58:51 GMT 50031214 vii om msutkowski@zwallet.com: # Is there a ritual or spell that is [helpful for] reading # [another's] thoughts? usually this is the focus of psychics. fictional spells, or those used in role-playing often include this, so as with fireballs, it might be analyzed, possibly duplicated if such things are possible (self-convincing siddhis). rituals: the closest thing I can come up with for humans that would qualify is the seance, which reads *dead* people's thoughts and feelings, ghosts, ostensibly, possibly with possession. of course if you're talking about the thoughts and feelings of all MANNER of beings, then there are some which are supposed to yield experiences of the thoughts and feelings of spirits, gods, demons, elementals, etc. spells: there are spells for discerning emotions like love. one of the oldest I know is using a flower picking petals and saying 'She loves me, she loves me not, she loves me, ...' until the petals are gone, but this one always seemed like bad odds. divination of any type can do this as well or better, and their results are more manipulable, subject to interpretation and therefore to interpreter-bias. auguries intending the prediction of people's actions or attempts to *control* the expression of people (and in that manner be able to predict what their going to say) are pretty common. humans, gods, etc. 'mind-reading' is a trick done by stage magicians, usually with preparation, deceptive assistants, and info-gatherers. 'telepathy' is an undemonstrated psychic power tested by people like Rhine and parapsychologists for years, often with special cards. they may have claimed some success rate, but I'm aware of nobody who can read minds without some form of deception. # I'm not asking anyone to give it out. I just simply # would like to know if its in existance. And please # don't be posting answers in relation to reading body # language and/or facial expressions to figure out what # that person is thinking. # Those type of answers are irrelevant. observation of the physical body would be the first level of interested prediction. knowing their genetic background and their sociocultural position would be another. coming to understand their long-term motivations and psychology would all qualify for ordinary or 'mundane' techniques. in short, it depends on what species of being the individual is. if human, it thence depends whether they hold a specific thought in mind that is being sought (as the decision on an important matter which one might use a spell, device, or rite to divine). if you want, additionally, to cease bothering to try to read someone's mind and instead attempt to *determine* or compel what they will think, then there are spells for this, inclusive of overall conditioning spells for 'intriquility', 'peacefulness' and 'compelling fulfilment of obligations'. black99
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