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Siddhi Byproducts vs Mundane Poweraims

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From: nagasiva 
Subject: Siddhi Byproducts vs Mundane Poweraims
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:19:27 GMT

50031216 vii om

#> depends on what species of being the individual
#> is. if human, it thence depends whether they hold a specific
#> thought in mind that is being sought (as the decision on an
#> important matter which one might use a spell, device,
#> or rite to divine).
#> if you want, additionally, to cease bothering to try to
#> read someone's mind and instead attempt to *determine*
#> or compel what they will think, then there are spells
#> for this, inclusive of overall conditioning spells for
#> 'intriquility', 'peacefulness' and 'compelling
#> fulfilment of obligations'.

# Allegedly, someone who is fully enlightened has all 
# the usual "paranormal" abilities, and then some.

many cultures believe in side-effect powers that are supposed
to come to the mystic in association with austerities or some
other outstanding mystical achievement.

these are not in and of themselves magical effects, but 
psychic or paranormal powers as you have indicated. 
additionally, not everyone agrees with the descriptions 
of Hermetic/Rosicrucian Office powers or the siddhis
of Indian mystical philosophy, and the condition of
'enlightenment' may indeed have no correllate. these things
aren't fundamental to all sociocultural descriptions of magic.
# Of course, by the time someone is in that state, tradition 
# holds that they don't give a rat's ass about such things, 
# but there you go.

yes, these traditions typically eshew the value of aiming for
the powers so described as side-benefits, maintaining that
they are 'distractions' and 'traps'. their cosmology usually
includes some kind of Grand Designer who sets up a morality.

to the magician who doesn't give a flying fuck about mysticism
and is only interested in the power and results of application
of that power in *mundane* dimensions, these warnings are as
nothing and may even be ecclesiastical deceptions intending to 
distract the thaumaturge from the assumption or exercise of 
what amounts to practical, cosmic authority.


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