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Magick, Preliminaries, Sources and Fear

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From: (nagasiva)
Subject: Magick, Preliminaries, Sources and Fear
Date: 12 Jan 1998 13:04:13 -0800

[Orig-To: private email in response to public posting while I
          was prevented from posting to Usenet] 

49971007 aa2 Hail Satan!  Lilimas!

# Please get into contact with me. I am currently studying Liber 777
# by Mr. Crowley. 

it is like reading an owners-operator's manual for Crowley's mind.  if you
are sufficiently alike to Crowley then it may assist you, otherwise it may
just confuse and distract.

# There have been times when I have come damn close to
# burning this book, but I cannot step of the path - 

this sounds confused.  I would instead recommend _Book Four_ for specific
ideological and practical information in ceremonial and general magick.
barring that, I have heard that Michael Kraig's book is satisfactory for
the ceremonial style.  I am not of this style myself, being more alike to
you than to ceremonialists, though I come in through the back door, so to

# I need instruction as to the meditative states needed to achieve Magick 

as I know it, this is a misperception of what magick is about, though of
course there are many ideas as to what magick is.  the type of instruction
you are asking about may be best instructed personally, not via computer.
I *can* attest to what I think are valuable meditation *methods* that may
assist magical practice, of course, and this includes any single-pointed
focus, such as staring at a candle-flame for brief periods, sitting with
spine straight and watching the breath, laying on back while not sleepy
and observing all that occurs in the body, etc.

# which sofar I have only been able to reach with the aid of hallucinogens.

having had some experience with these types of psychoactive substances,
I no longer use that characterization but instead 'psychedelics'.  I find
that structured ingestion has been most effective (ritualized) and that
this has simultaneously allowed me to develop a relationship with them
and allow their assistance in my integration.  I have supplemented this
experience with a lot of book study and exploration of some group rites.

# I have no fear of the art and I understand the value of everything.

yeah, sure.

blessed beast!
nagasiva --;
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