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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.thelema,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,alt.occult,alt.pagan.magick From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Subject: Magick, Preliminaries, Sources and Fear Date: 12 Jan 1998 13:04:13 -0800 [Orig-To: private email in response to public posting while I was prevented from posting to Usenet] 49971007 aa2 Hail Satan! Lilimas! # Please get into contact with me. I am currently studying Liber 777 # by Mr. Crowley. it is like reading an owners-operator's manual for Crowley's mind. if you are sufficiently alike to Crowley then it may assist you, otherwise it may just confuse and distract. # There have been times when I have come damn close to # burning this book, but I cannot step of the path - this sounds confused. I would instead recommend _Book Four_ for specific ideological and practical information in ceremonial and general magick. barring that, I have heard that Michael Kraig's book is satisfactory for the ceremonial style. I am not of this style myself, being more alike to you than to ceremonialists, though I come in through the back door, so to speak. # I need instruction as to the meditative states needed to achieve Magick as I know it, this is a misperception of what magick is about, though of course there are many ideas as to what magick is. the type of instruction you are asking about may be best instructed personally, not via computer. I *can* attest to what I think are valuable meditation *methods* that may assist magical practice, of course, and this includes any single-pointed focus, such as staring at a candle-flame for brief periods, sitting with spine straight and watching the breath, laying on back while not sleepy and observing all that occurs in the body, etc. # which sofar I have only been able to reach with the aid of hallucinogens. having had some experience with these types of psychoactive substances, I no longer use that characterization but instead 'psychedelics'. I find that structured ingestion has been most effective (ritualized) and that this has simultaneously allowed me to develop a relationship with them and allow their assistance in my integration. I have supplemented this experience with a lot of book study and exploration of some group rites. # I have no fear of the art and I understand the value of everything. yeah, sure. blessed beast! __________________________________________________________________________ nagasiva -- tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com; http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi/ -- (emailed replies may be posted); http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi; 408/2-666-SLUG join the esoteric syncretism in alt.magick.tyagi; http://www.abyss.com/tokus
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