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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.magick.ethics From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (nagasiva yronwode) Subject: Re: High and Low Magic Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 04:54:18 GMT 50000604 IVom umbral_echo@my-deja.com: >I always thought that the difference in High and Low magick was a >matter of use. As in, High magick would seem to have a stronger basis >in theory and low magick has a stronger basis in application. Sort of >like the difference between a mechanic and a physicist. The mechanic >works with the same forces and materials as the physicist would, but >the mechanics grounding is in the evolution of the applied. The >physicist also works with the applied but only in the sense that it is >required to achieve lab results that in turn elucidate on further >possibilities in theory. No matter how I look at the different >individuals who practice magick, the dichotomy appears to be the same. >They both work within the same framework, only different starting >places and different ends make the difference so. Not that the >difference is necessary, only that it is a natural for people to >differentiate between the two paths because of their apparent >differences. this is a lovely hypothesis. I've noticed that low magicians (those who work toward mundane ends) tend to proceed by the principle 'whatever works' whereas the high magicians (mystical ends) more often want to know WHY something works (presumably so that it can be integrated into a wider practical application (using the same technic later). thus the emphasis on Magical Records amongst the Hermetic (high) mages and witches. nagasiva -- mailto:nagasiva@luckymojo.com ; http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html mailto:boboroshi@satanservice.org ; http://www.satanservice.org/ emailed replies may be posted; cc replies if response desired Path: typhoon.sonic.net!newsfeed2.skycache.com!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: Satsuki YatojiNewsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.magick.ethics Subject: Re: High and Low Magic Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 04:23:16 GMT Organization: Hologram Nation Lines: 15 Message-ID: <8hv47d$qna$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8gneoi$jcs@bolt.sonic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.54.50.156 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Jun 11 04:23:16 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; Compaq; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x62.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 4.54.50.156 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDsatsuki Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:23489 alt.magick:197161 alt.pagan.magick:22569 alt.magick.ethics:7628 From what I've read, the difference isn't the purpose, but the means. Low magic is earthy, visceral and more simply-set-up, where high magic is precise, involved and seemingly higher in the feeling of it (vibration?). Like the difference between a fireside drumming session and involved techno music...Both are beautiful in their own way, and people have a preference for one or the other, but one isn't 'better'. Just my opinion/experience though. :) -- -Blessed are the cracked, for they will let in the light.- Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Path: typhoon.sonic.net!pushkin.conxion.com!news.he.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!howland.erols.net!torn!news.uunet.ca!news.on.rogers.wave.ca!not-for-mail From: Jeremy McKenzie Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.magick.ethics Subject: Re: High and Low Magic Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 06:28:31 -0400 Organization: Rogers Cantel Inc. Lines: 30 Message-ID: <394369CF.96175B2B@oss.cantel.rogers.com> References: <8gneoi$jcs@bolt.sonic.net> <8hv47d$qna$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rc36200.rogers.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5C-CCK-MCD [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:23493 alt.magick:197195 alt.pagan.magick:22573 alt.magick.ethics:7629 I've always understood the difference between High and Low magic as being similar to the difference between so-called "left brain" and "right brain" modes of thinking, respectively. High magic is more formula oriented and mathematical, whereas Low magic is more intuitive and primal. It's been said that High magic developed in cities, which were usually on hills and Low magic developed on farms, which were usually in valleys. From what I've seen, in general, High magic has it's roots in monotheistic religions and Low magic in polytheistic religions. There is a huge amount of overlap and I'm not trying to pigeon-hole anyone. I agree that neither type is inherently better than the other. Ideally, (IMHO) both types of magical approaches should be taken into account when planning out a ritual, and then lean more towards whatever type of magic that you feel most inclined towards. Satsuki Yatoji wrote: > > From what I've read, the difference isn't the purpose, but the means. > Low magic is earthy, visceral and more simply-set-up, where high magic > is precise, involved and seemingly higher in the feeling of it > (vibration?). Like the difference between a fireside drumming session > and involved techno music...Both are beautiful in their own way, and > people have a preference for one or the other, but one isn't 'better'. > > Just my opinion/experience though. :) > > -- > -Blessed are the cracked, for they will let in the light.- > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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