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What to do in case if someone wants to curse you? How to negate

To: alt.magick,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic
From: catherine yronwode 
Subject: Re: What to do in case if someone wants to curse you? How to negate it?
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:11:43 GMT

Pearlz & Maggie-the-Cat wrote:
> catherine yronwode wrote:
> > Pearlz & Maggie-the-Cat wrote:
> > > Corpus Callosum wrote:

> > > > Then, in retrospect, you can judge properly if the working
> > > > was successful upon re-entering "magical mode."
> > >
> > > No, you never judge while in magickal mode.  You turn the
> > > skepticsm back on after you exit the circle (sacred time and
> > > space) and then you judge.
> >
> > Good point: If the spell is supposed to bring in money, check your 
> > bank balance; if the spell is supposed to heighten passion, keep a 
> > brief diary of your sexual doings.
> It seems that the chaotes and vooduns (is that what they're called?)
> agree that there must be a division between everyday reality and
> magickal reality.  Makes good sense to me.

Voodoo (also spelled Voudoo) is an African religion developed among the
Fon-speaking people of West Africa (present day Dahomey and Benin), and
subsequently carried with slaves to the New World, where it mingled with
French colonial Catholic symbolism to produce an offshoot usually called
Haitian Voudoo, whose practitioners are called Vouduisants. 

I was actually NOT speaking about Vouduisants at all. Rather i was
mentioning the magical system known variously as hoodoo, rootwork, or
conjure (note the lack of capitalization, as this is not a religion)
that developed among African-Americans. Hoodoo is based in the Central
African folk-magical tradition of the Bantu-Congo people (most of the
slaves in US were Cngo, not Fon like the slaves in Haiti or Yoruba like
the slaves in Cuba) but contains large admixtures from the European
folk-magic traditions of British, Irish, and German colonists in the
United States as well as botanical knowledge and herb-magic beliefs
gleaned from Native Americns. 

Read more at Hoodoo in Theory and Practice
especially the page on the history and basics of hoodoo at

> > > To give credit where it's due, this is all stuff I learned
> > > from Josh.
> >
> > Ah, Josh. I miss him sometimes...
> Me too.

Recently the crows have been cawing overhead a lot and that brings to
mind an afternoon and evening tyagi and i spent with Josh and Annaliese
in San Jose. Josh was improbably claiming that the crows that cawed
overhead that day were in direct communication with him -- and then spun
out a long tale of govenment conspiracy, military intelligence
operations, and Lord Siva. It was brilliant ... and too weird. This was
around the time he quit usenet to work on his North Pole airship

> >Heck, i even miss Tzimon sometimes...
> I wouldn't go that far....
> LOL!

Yeah ... he was a mean cuss sometimes, but he was smart, anyway, and a
good writer. 

cat yronwode

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